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	SD! : Web boards : Submission : ""just " a slave?" 1 2 3 4 5 6 "just " a slave? (59) Moved from IE Theory Sat 28 Oct 06, 3:18 PM 724-400-220 2 yrs The following rant was approved by Master. In the permission to speak thread Miss Aisha stated: "they are after all just slaves". This has stuck in my craw for quite some time. Just a slave? Like we are so easily trained that we are disposable? That all our efforts, service, tears and gifts are nothing? In consenual slavery, although we are owed, we cannot be bought or sold. Our service is a gift, freely given. That cannot and should not be so offhandedly dismissed. well, discuss amougst yourselves. Master and i are moving,and will be without internet accses for a week or so. Adversity tested, Master approved 28 Oct 06, 4:48 PM slave2master US, 2 yrs 724-400-220 wrote: The following rant was approved by Master. In the permission to speak thread Miss Aisha stated: "they are after all just slaves". This has stuck in my craw for quite some time. Just a slave? Like we are so easily trained that we are disposable? That all our efforts, service, tears and gifts are nothing? In consenual slavery, although we are owed, we cannot be bought or sold. Our service is a gift, freely given. That cannot and should not be so offhandedly dismissed. well, discuss amougst yourselves. Master and i are moving,and will be without internet accses for a week or so. i read the "just a slave" comment and was angered as well. i have never felt "just a slave" to my Master. If i was that unimportant to Him, would He take so much time in training me? Would He have so much patience with me? If i was "just a slave" would He not just throw me away at the first hesitation or problem He might have with me? Would He not just replace me if, in fact, i am so disposable? i am a slave because i want to be a slave. i obey because it is my greatest pleasure to obey my Master. But my obedience does not always come easily...especially if it is something new or old fears haunt me. If i ever thought i was "just a slave" to my Master, i would probably make a decision to not be a slave. But i know that this will never happen. My Master cares about me. He cares about me on many levels, and because of that, i will never be "just a slave". 28 Oct 06, 8:31 PM little_linnet US, 3 yrs It irritated me too, although I didn't feel like derailing the thread to call her on it. What an obnoxious thing to say. Right, because being a slave means someone never ever has insight, experience, intelligence or skills to offer? Either she's been going around picking some pretty crappy slaves, or she's a complete fantasist who actually has no experience with consensual enslavement. I suspect the latter. Krista (Previously "proudflesh") Under my thumb / The sweetest / Pet in the world www.xanga.com/proudflesh 28 Oct 06, 10:19 PM His_little_girl US(MA), 4 yrs 724-400-220 wrote: The following rant was approved by Master. In the permission to speak thread Miss Aisha stated: "they are after all just slaves". This has stuck in my craw for quite some time. Just a slave? Like we are so easily trained that we are disposable? That all our efforts, service, tears and gifts are nothing? In consenual slavery, although we are owed, we cannot be bought or sold. Our service is a gift, freely given. That cannot and should not be so offhandedly dismissed. well, discuss amougst yourselves. Master and i are moving,and will be without internet accses for a week or so. i know that to my Owner i'm not thought of as 'just a slave'. i'm *His* slave. He can value me or not. As the Owner, that's His right. How any other views their property is *thier* right. Any slave that takes issue with an owner who thinks of them as 'just a slave' should think long and hard about who they consent to being owned by. Just as there are some slaves who need to know that their owner views them as having high value as property, likewise, there are some slaves who prefer an owner who views them as 'just a slave'. Some slaves do not view their service as a 'gift', and instead are 'gifted' with the priviledge of serving their owners. Some slaves do accept and understand that their owners have the right to trade or sell them. Some know that a wise owner would seek a good price at auction rather than dispose of their property. We can't all fit into one size fits all boxes. Every relationship is different, protocols and dynamics are different etc ect.... every owner decides how they value or do not value their slaves etc ect . Anyone with concern of not being valued in their relationship would be wise to choose carefully. IE: Know in advance what they are signing up for ... Know what the owner's expectations will be. etc ect No slave or owner has any business pointing at another slave or owner and deciding what that slave or owner should and should not do in *their* relationship, and/or what should be and/or is or is not acceptable. ~*my favorite sites~* http://www.rlslavery.com & http://www.freakefriends.com Edited 28 Oct 06, 10:24 PM by His_little_girl 28 Oct 06, 10:33 PM MasterTyler US, 3 yrs Y! his_000928387 wrote: No slave or owner has any business pointing at another slave or owner and deciding what that slave or owner should and should not do in *their* relationship, and/or what should be and/or is or is not acceptable. amen. MasterTyler www.FlightOfDragons.com 29 Oct 06, 12:33 AM 000-857-861 4 yrs 724-400-220 wrote: The following rant was approved by Master. In the permission to speak thread Miss Aisha stated: "they are after all just slaves". This has stuck in my craw for quite some time. Just a slave? Like we are so easily trained that we are disposable? That all our efforts, service, tears and gifts are nothing? In consenual slavery, although we are owed, we cannot be bought or sold. Our service is a gift, freely given. That cannot and should not be so offhandedly dismissed. well, discuss amougst yourselves. Master and i are moving,and will be without internet accses for a week or so. Add me to the angered list; it sounds like someone as a god/ess complex to me. That is still something that angers me, even after this long when I hear those horid words 'just a slave.' Last time I checked, a master/mistress would NOT be one without a slave; so the tables could VERY easily be turned into saying 'just a master/mistress.' People with the god/ess complex, look at slaves as paper plates from my understanding; use them one, then throw them out and reach for the next one; or they just look at themselves as ABOVE a slave {rofl}; give, me a break; it takes a strong person to submit. When I hear such blasphemy like what you reported, I just add them to my troll-list and move on. ~slaverosebeauty~ "For it was not into my ear He whispered, but into heart. It was not my lips He kissed, but my soul, He calls me slave, I call Him my Master." ~Author Unknown 29 Oct 06, 1:34 AM Samboanga US, 2 yrs but yet you, ARE a slave WITHOUT a Master/Mistress slaverosebeauty? I do agree with the OP, but your response defies logic somehow. Sambi Edited 29 Oct 06, 1:35 AM by Samboanga 29 Oct 06, 2:27 AM Just_Angel US(CO), 2 yrs £ Y! Its not the "just a slave" mentality itself that makes me irritated. (its not worth anger,... more just like a noisy fly) Its more the part of, I dont care for slaves opinions or thoughts on anything not directly related to practical serving" part. While it is every Owners perogative to care about what they wish, i feel that this is the mentality that creates "doormat" slaves. There was someone that Mistress and i both knew that told me the day after i was collared the she would turn me into "a thoughtless, emotionless droid". i knew this would not be the case with her. Though my thoughts or opinions may or may not effect her decision, she likes to have it. i think i just tend to shy about the why-should-i-care-about-what-a-slave-thinks, mentality. i are a slave, but i are an thinking slave too. "She paints her eyes as black as night now she pulls those shades down tight she gives a smile when the pain comes the pain's gonna make everything alright" ~Black Crows Mistress Narcissa's cherub 29 Oct 06, 2:46 AM SnowdropExplodes UK, 4 yrs Y! Personally, I find any "just a..." statement to be deeply offensive, when applied to a human being (even when that human's existence is as property). After all, other forms of that statement might be "just a Jew", or "just a Black person" or "just a woman". Maybe also, "just a fatty" or "just a blond(e)". It's amazing how you can define the valid and invalid parts of humanity so easily with such a little word - "just". Stepping away from the righteous PC indignation for a moment, let's look at it from the point of view of property: I can understand something cheap, easily replacable, easily lost/damaged/broken/used up, being dismissed as "just a biro" (or whatever). It is a lot harder to imagine someone dismissing their pride and joy as being "just a work of art", for example. Those who view works of art, magnificent antiques, etc, in a dismissive way, are seen as perverse, either because they are so wealthy that the value of the things is lost on them, or else, because they lack the culture to appreciate what is before them. And to my mind there can be no piece of property more valuable than a slave who consents to that role. No work of human hands can match the marvel that is M/s, and the amazing fact that there exist such suited pieces - Master/Mistress and slave. "Just a slave" sounds like "just my life's work" on that basis. So either way, whether it is viewed as a statement about the human or the property part of "human property", "just a slave" is a phrase that to me just seems wrong. Ta, SnowdropExplodes 29 Oct 06, 1:02 PM MasterTyler US, 3 yrs Y! SnowdropExplodes wrote: And to my mind there can be no piece of property more valuable than a slave who consents to that role. No work of human hands can match the marvel that is M/s, and the amazing fact that there exist such suited pieces - Master/Mistress and slave. Exactly. This also should help those who think something's wrong when they discover they are with a less-than-ideal playmate, or those who can't find the right partner quickly... working towards perfection should generally be thought of as a 'long-term' thing. PS for others here in North America who don't recognize the term, biro is a ballpoint pen (usually a disposable stick pen). MasterTyler www.FlightOfDragons.com 29 Oct 06, 5:19 PM 000-857-861 4 yrs Samboanga wrote: but yet you, ARE a slave WITHOUT a Master/Mistress slaverosebeauty? I do agree with the OP, but your response defies logic somehow. Sambi Ture, yet I am NOT 'just a slave.' I am also a mother, a daughter, a bestfriend, a writer, a troll slayer {giggles}, a lover, a reader, a shark diver, a model, etc. I am sooooooooooooo many more things, so I am NOT 'just a.' Being a slave goes deeper than the outside; a slave in heart is still a slave, even if not in service. I am a slave without a master; so, I know plenty of masters without slaves, yet they are till masters. Like others have said, those words 'just a' are the offensive words that are mentioned, as others have shown, you can trully substitute anything after them to make the phrase offensive. ~slaverosebeauty~ "For it was not into my ear He whispered, but into heart. It was not my lips He kissed, but my soul, He calls me slave, I call Him my Master." ~Author Unknown Next page