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	SD! : Web boards : Service : "Being Rented" 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Being Rented (84) 22 Apr 07, 12:27 AM redneck UK, 21 mths DomainRuler wrote: Morality comes from religion and if you were religious then you wouldn't be in this lifestyle or on this webboard. So I invite all of the righteous, indignant or holier than thou persons to please leave using the nearest exit and don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out. Thanks for playing but you are not welcome here. Hey domain ruler. Although i know the type of people your talking about, and i agree with you. i think you mabey generalising a bit too much in the above statement. I am NOT religious, i am not anti-religious, but i but i would like to believe that i am a moral person. regardless of the "apparantly" immoral thing i get up to (which is where i agree with you) there are also many areas in my life which would be concidered "moral". i dont do it to be moral "righteous, indignant or holier than thou", but i do it to be a good person. you should remember that the only thing that differs us to other people are our choices. please dont bring their prejuduces in here. hope all is well Edited 22 Apr 07, 1:59 AM by redneck 22 Apr 07, 2:51 PM 570-075-344 AU, 2 yrs Y! i am often loaned for domestic service to my owner's friends. She does not charge for my service and if that is what She wants i am happy to serve. my service is usually naked, except where inappropriate; sexual service is not unusual in these circumstances. property of Ms Clare 22 Apr 07, 10:13 PM sub_way UK, 2 yrs subsfaith wrote: his_5lut wrote: altough he does not allow vaginal sex Who would pay for a whore that you can't fuck? :: smiles :: ohh i dunno..theres plenty other than fucking to enjoy 22 Apr 07, 11:35 PM 631-535-398 US, 2 yrs Y! sub_way wrote: subsfaith wrote: his_5lut wrote: altough he does not allow vaginal sex Who would pay for a whore that you can't fuck? :: smiles :: ohh i dunno..theres plenty other than fucking to enjoy Quite true, flogging, anal, oral, pain play, spanking, etc... slave giolla Love bites, love bleeds. It's bringing me to my knees. 23 Apr 07, 11:02 AM 862-203-011 AU, 23 mths 460-809-271 wrote: 862-203-011 wrote: "Morality comes from religion and if you were religious then you wouldn't be in this lifestyle or on this webboard." I don't know about not being in the lifestyle. If you think about it, relationships used to be more like the lifestyle than different. Remember, the word 'obey' used to be commonplace in vows. It was only women's lib that started the trend of women leaving it off. This one did not say the above, it was a quote from another. Master's piece 26 Apr 07, 11:41 AM DomainRuler US, 2 yrs Y! The_Giver wrote: First of all, morality doesn't come from religion. There are lots of religious people who aren't moral. I have tried to maintain a level of morality in My past life as a vanilla agnostic as well as in the present as a Master and Christian. Throwing morality in the mix isn't necessarily a "religious" concept, but I suspect you've had religious people in your past push morality at you, so you assume all must be this way. I have studied different religions as part of my quest to better understand them and to see if there was a religion I wanted to follow. Even though people used and do use religion for their own purposes, morality does come from religion. That is where all of the morals that people tend to follow comes from. If you look at what "morals" are you will see that they do follow the religious precepts. Without religion, morals would have never surfaced. If you look at societies that have not had religion and don't today (you would have to go back to places where tribes that haven't been touched by civilized society are), you will find some that have no religion and because of such have no values or morals they follow except those they make up to fit their needs. This is not the same as being an atheist as atheists do follow some morals but not all. Some make sense but let's say for instance you don't believe that killing or robbing is moral....well that comes from religion. They are intertwined. But you can be moral without being religious but you cannot divorce morality from religion because again morals come from religion. The_Giver wrote: Getting to My point, I don't see "Internal Enslavement" as immoral anyway. The whack jobs who comment on this site are often called on their fantasy vs reality. The reality is that the term "slave" used here doesn't have anything to do with involuntary slavery as we read in the history books. I wish there was a better word to describe the dynamic of the real relationships discussed in this site, but there isn't. We probably need to create a word like "Grok" or something to really get there. I agree with you that IE or the type of slavery we are talking about here is neither moral nor immoral, it just is what we choose to do. The highly religious/moral people don't view this way and in their mind they view slavery as slavery. They don't realize we are not talking about the slavery that the US had in its history or many other cultures had in theirs. They don't see any difference between the two and that is the ones I was referring to. If you were that religious or moral, you wouldn't be on this webboard anyway. 26 Apr 07, 11:52 AM DomainRuler US, 2 yrs Y! ravenkaldera wrote: I am a devout Neo-Pagan. And I mean really, really devout. Rather fanatical, actually. My moral standard is dead solid and is not going anywhere ... and there is nothing in my religion that says that I can't do this. The morality involved only suggests that it not do harm, and since what I do is harming no one, it's OK. In fact, I wrote an entire *book* on how BDSM works for people in my religion. It's here: http://www.amazon.com/Dark-Moon-Rising-Pagan-Ord... And if you decide that I don't count because my religion is not a majority one, I will be very disappointed in you. Because the things that you started out saying - that people should be tolerant of each other's lifestyle - were good things. I appreciated them. So I can only hope that you will take some small joy in the idea that there are some faiths, even if they are not yours, which can see this path as acceptable, and that not all religion is intolerant on principle, even if it's not your thing. -Raven Kaldera I do find your posts very interesting and always like to see a different approach to a subject. I of course will never say that anything is absolute but what I was referring to is that in my study of relgion that overall religions have a common theme. And although there are offshoots of all religions (look at Christianity with its Catholics, Baptists, etc), I was talking about a common view they all have in common. Of course Christians and Buddists (just to name two), will have their own particulars once you start looking into the depths of them, they seem to have the same theme when you look at them in the big picture. And although I don't know much about the Neo-Pagan religion, I would tend to assume (I know a bad thing to do), that it gets its overall beliefs from the same place. So yes I am tolerant of all and what they will believe and would not discount any religion even if only one person were to believe in it. And even though I am agnostic, I am also an ordained minister. I don't have a following or a church but I could but choose not to because I feel that would make me a hypocrite unless of course I made myself the "god" of the religion. Oh wait, that would put me in the same category as others that have done this (think Jim Jones) and don't want to be seen in that light 26 Apr 07, 11:57 AM DomainRuler US, 2 yrs Y! Lord_of_x_phox_x wrote: Hey domain ruler. Although i know the type of people your talking about, and i agree with you. i think you mabey generalising a bit too much in the above statement. I am NOT religious, i am not anti-religious, but i but i would like to believe that i am a moral person. regardless of the "apparantly" immoral thing i get up to (which is where i agree with you) there are also many areas in my life which would be concidered "moral". i dont do it to be moral "righteous, indignant or holier than thou", but i do it to be a good person. you should remember that the only thing that differs us to other people are our choices. please dont bring their prejuduces in here. hope all is well Seems that I didn't make myself clear and have to reiterate my position. I am not saying that you have to be religious to be moral only that morality originally came from religion. I am agnostic and moral but not religious as well. I was referring to those that are highly religious/moral to the extreme and use it as a platform for putting others down or trying to run their lives. And I agree they should not bring their prejudices in here. All is well with me and I hope with you as well. 26 Apr 07, 11:49 PM King_Nood13z_BayBee US(CA), 22 mths Y! although in the past Master has rented me to His friends and on ocasion his half brother, He has developed a semi-jealous/possesive streak. if anyone of His 'circle' touches me, there is a confrontation. i dont mind now being for Him alone, (the others were careless and sloppy) and its fun when i am dressed in my slave outfit in front of his druling friends! 27 Apr 07, 12:30 AM redneck UK, 21 mths DomainRuler wrote: Seems that I didn't make myself clear and have to reiterate my position. I am not saying that you have to be religious to be moral only that morality originally came from religion. I am agnostic and moral but not religious as well. I was referring to those that are highly religious/moral to the extreme and use it as a platform for putting others down or trying to run their lives. And I agree they should not bring their prejudices in here. All is well with me and I hope with you as well. I agree (the above was just a much better way of putting it) I despise those who try to force thyier beliefs, whatever they are, onto others for any reason. Thanks for clearing that up. Next page