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	SD! : Web boards : Service : "Worst personal ads "I'm a slave, but not a doormat!"" 1 2 3 4 5 6 Worst personal ads "I'm a slave, but not a doormat!" (57) Wed 30 May 07, 2:42 PM Sungmehetu US(OR), 2 yrs  This is a sentance that I find completely and totally ironic. "I am a slave, but not a doormat!" I have seen this sentance at the end of numerous personals all over the net. This sentance tells me that the author of said personal ad, has NO idea what a slave is! If the ad said.."I'm a loyal subbie, but not a doormat.' I'd have no issue with THAT statement. That plainly says that this woman or man wants to maintain control of his/her will, but is willing to serve. In slavery, the slave is whatever is expected of them! Be it a footstool, a horse to plow fields, a dog that isn't to speak, but intead growl and bark, or ...god forbid, a damned carpet, For the Owner to wipe His/Her feet on! Yes, if you choose to be a slave you might become a TOILET! Don't claim to be a slave and then expect to be pampered!! If you want a romantic relationship, don't put your ad on a LIFESTYLE site! If you want a Master/Mistress that will treat you well, and listen to you daily, um...that's not slavery, that is submissiveness, and it still borders on a romance, unless you find yourself doing dishes while your favorite show is on. If the Master is anything like Me...he tapes it...If you do well I give you the tape. If not, I record history channel over it. I really want to hear from the true slaves here. "I'm a slave, but not a doormat". What are your feelings about that statement, and Doms, What is Your feeling? Best regards, Coyote in Oregon Sungmehetu Edited Wed 30 May 07, 2:49 PM by Sungmehetu 30 May 07, 2:50 PM Pierced_Knight UK, 2 yrs£ Sungmehetu wrote: This is a sentance that I find completely and totally ironic. "I am a slave, but not a doormat!" Although I understand your view of this statement, I think I can also understand the point that is trying to be made by it. I'm not too sure that... "i am (or would like to be) a slave but i am also a human being and would like to be treated with care and dignity" ...would be quite as catchy an ad title? Pierced Knight. Educate to Liberate! Liberation through Education 30 May 07, 2:56 PM 902-660-194 US(PA), 3 yrs  i agree... theres one "slave" in mind who's profile on here sounds about as far away from being submissive, let alone slave as one could get. in fact after reading it,, and many of her posts, i thought she would be an amazing domme. i dont, & never have, laid down "rules" with Master or told Him i will not be a doormat so to speak.. its not my place. i can beg for something not to happen.. but if He says it will.. it will. case in point, sunday night i was wearing a cotton slip-on dress (nothing under) while over our neighbors, He chose to show off my body by lifting it up above my chest.. i wanted to die, just fade away but i stood still, no words, no expression of horror, nothing... just stood till He was done (which i think lasted a month, seemed it lol) PS.. i have missed TONS of fav shows because of chores, i should just plan better. EDITED to say i believe Master treats me with dignity because im almost 100% positive the dress thing would not have happened in a more public place.. backyard of some very good friends was all... still embarrasing the sting of His whip~ the welts from His crop~ the warmth of His kiss~ the click of the lock~ assures me i am His most cherished possession. Edited 30 May 07, 2:59 PM by 902-660-194 30 May 07, 4:11 PM 000-719-381 US(OK), 7 yrs  Pierced_Knight wrote: Sungmehetu wrote: "I am a slave, but not a doormat!" "i am (or would like to be) a slave but i am also a human being and would like to be treated with care and dignity" Pierced Knight. this slut believes that the "i am not a doormat" statement resonates with many slaves because it has become a cliche in many web boards. If this slut considers this statement carefully, it is obvious that, yes, its Owner could use it as a doormat, and that such use would be perfectly in keeping with being Owner's owned object/property. Nonetheless, to this slut, and , it thinks,to many slaves, surrender to enslavement, to being an owned object, has been a consensual choice (albeit the last choice a slave freely makes, for once enslaved, choice is surrendered to its owner), made by "a human being . ...to be treated with care and respect ". this slut may be used as a doormat; but even as owned object, this slut is more than a doormat. An Owner/Master/Mistress Who used slut only as a doormat would do better to buy such at the local hardware or department store . . . a doormat can only serve . . . as a doormat , most respectfully slut phylassia 30 May 07, 4:36 PM His_chicklet US, 20 mths  Well, 'true slave' is in the eye of the beholder, of course, but here's my two cents - I think it speaks of a fear that some seem to have at first, one that prevents so many from truly surrendering. By stating she is "not a doormat", what she might really be saying is "I don't want to give up my entire personality", or "I won't let you treat me like crap just because you want to", or the most dreaded "I won't be a mindless zombie!" Of course, to really be a slave, one has to accept that such things are entirely possible, especially is one is not careful about whom they choose to serve. Even with the best of owners, though, the bottom line is you are what your owner wants you to be - only that and nothing more. The biggest fear I had was that by being a slave, I would lose all the really cool parts of my personality, the ones I like the most (and yes, the ones that clash most with being a slave). What I've come to learn is that I don't have to get rid of these parts completely; I just tuck them away in a box in the back of the closet. They are still there - my will, my ego, my need to be the strongest, even my smart mouth - and if I ever need them again, I can pull them out and use them (ok, ok, the ego isn't all the way in the box yet ... or the smart mouth). I have to agree that such a sentence doesn't show anything other than ignorance or fear. 30 May 07, 7:58 PM little_linnet US, 3 yrs  I hate the doormat shit. You know what I think is the #1 purpose that it serves? It's a context for "slaves" and submissives who have no desire for anything but limited submission, to feel superior to submissives and literal slaves who are focused on complete obedience and/or powerlessness. It rewrites the scale so that THEY are doing the sensible, intelligent thing, and anyone desiring more obedience or powerlessness than they do is a being akin to a limp dishrag. Attractive, no? On Tanos' Informed Consent boards, the equivalent sneer is "twoooooo sub". Never mind that submissives who desire limited power exchange don't have anything to defend or justify. It's not like there's actually anything wrong or inferior about non-literal-M/s relationships. So I have no idea where this near-obsession with validating themselves comes from, but I've noticed that in the BDSM scene very few people are free of it. It's bizarre. Krista "My way or the highway" is the copout of a man who cannot master a girl, and so must demand that she master herself for him. "My way period, as easy or as hard as you want to make it" is an attitude much more appropriate to a man who has any real power over the woman he is speaking to. 30 May 07, 8:04 PM Chastiser UK, 8 yrs  little_linnet wrote: I hate the doormat shit. You know what I think is the #1 purpose that it serves? It's a context for "slaves" and submissives who have no desire for anything but limited submission, to feel superior to submissives and literal slaves who are focused on complete obedience and/or powerlessness. i agree that such a term is always used as one of derision. odd really. it certainly is used as a way of saying there are things i wont do. the laughable ones are those that claim to be slave, and are then basically saying there are things that as slave they will not do. there are also those that seem to think that the more bratty they are, the more attractive they are, and use the doormat thing as a way of showing brattyness. pretty stupid in my book. Mike Let Me unchain your mind and your sexuality will follow. Taking part in the Macmillan 4x4 charity event in 2008. please donate to this http://www.justgiving.com/teameuropcar www.fetbid.com the free to buyer and seller kink friendly auction site. Place ya stuff on there and support the site 30 May 07, 8:22 PM puppypam SE, 2 yrs  Pierced_Knight wrote: "i am (or would like to be) a slave but i am also a human being and would like to be treated with care and dignity" ...would be quite as catchy an ad title? Pierced Knight. If this one may say her opinion, that statement is still based on what the slave wants. As a slave the focus should be on what your Owner would want not you. A slave is whatever its Owner wish it to be. “There are hundreds of ways to kneel and kiss the ground.” -Jalal ad-Din Rumi 30 May 07, 8:26 PM little_linnet US, 3 yrs  Chastiser wrote: there are also those that seem to think that the more bratty they are, the more attractive they are, and use the doormat thing as a way of showing brattyness. Argh. Yes. I especially see red, these days, at the implication that being disobedient/"bratty" somehow shows more intelligence than being focused on obedience and serious about enslavement. It seems that in every discussion about obedience, you can rely on SOMEbody popping up to imply or assert that obedient, well-trained, pliant slaves are boring and lack personality. Gah. (Edited to add: I am sure this is the biggest reason EXACTLY why my master has such a difficult time convincing me that being pliant, obedient and devoted makes me *more* attractive to him and not less.) Krista "My way or the highway" is the copout of a man who cannot master a girl, and so must demand that she master herself for him. "My way period, as easy or as hard as you want to make it" is an attitude much more appropriate to a man who has any real power over the woman he is speaking to. Edited 30 May 07, 8:55 PM by little_linnet 30 May 07, 8:38 PM His_chicklet US, 20 mths  little_linnet wrote: You know what I think is the #1 purpose that it serves? It's a context for "slaves" and submissives who have no desire for anything but limited submission, to feel superior to submissives and literal slaves who are focused on complete obedience and/or powerlessness. Yes, that would be the other reason for it 30 May 07, 9:03 PM 662-935-655 US, 2 yrs  902-660-194 wrote: i agree... theres one "slave" in mind who's profile on here sounds about as far away from being submissive, let alone slave as one could get. in fact after reading it,, and many of her posts, i thought she would be an amazing domme. i dont, & never have, laid down "rules" with Master or told Him i will not be a doormat so to speak.. its not my place. i can beg for something not to happen.. but if He says it will.. it will. case in point, sunday night i was wearing a cotton slip-on dress (nothing under) while over our neighbors, He chose to show off my body by lifting it up above my chest.. i wanted to die, just fade away but i stood still, no words, no expression of horror, nothing... just stood till He was done (which i think lasted a month, seemed it lol) PS.. i have missed TONS of fav shows because of chores, i should just plan better. EDITED to say i believe Master treats me with dignity because im almost 100% positive the dress thing would not have happened in a more public place.. backyard of some very good friends was all... still embarrasing Laughing my butt off - without losing much weight! (SIGH) Sometimes i look at myself and i could quite fit what you say here. i don't sound or act much like i believe a slave should act - but i am doing what i'm told, having a very Gentle Dom as a Master, a mostly "Daddy Dom" type or what i think that means. In being His "little girl" i'm encouraged to even act out and speak up at times. Master has said - or so i understand it - that he prefers the surrender of a strong personality because it means more to Him. i'm not sure i've figured that one out yet, so please don't ask. What makes me a slave is not that i fit someone else's image of a slave or even my own - as long as i fit HIS image of what HE wants me to be, as long as i am His and i've been told that's forever. As for the not being a doormat, as i understand it, some M/s relationships do have limits that are agreed on in advance with safe words and such. This is supposed to hold, according the Owner's honor, even after the one who is entering into that One's service has resigned all rights. Safe words, for ex. Maybe i misunderstand how this works for others, but that's what i get out of what i've read. And perhaps that was the doormat comment meant to the ones who put it in their ad. Although i think the Ones who expressed that even though they are slaves they are saying they are human beings, wanting to be treated with dignity, etc. too - i think that idea sounds right too. Anyways - for what it's worth, which ain't much - that's my take on it. j/L Papa's OWN! P.S. about slaves with strong personalities, i've known a few poly families with a male Master and all slaves were females. In each and every case the first in position of the females, in charge sort of over the others, was quite a strong personality. Master calls this an "alpha female" and says that His little girl (brat?) would be quite good in that position although He has no plans for a "harem". And he's also told me i probably could be a switch, something i agree with, but am not in a position to pursue right now. My favorite collar is one He gave me with a dragon on it - to warn people of my dragon lady side, as He put it. And about that doormat thing - Since most of U/us agree it's not the best way of wording that, i was wondering if folks had other short, but sweeter, ways of phrasing it? Edited 31 May 07, 5:34 AM by 662-935-655 Next page