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	SD! : Web boards : Service : "Worst personal ads "I'm a slave, but not a doormat!"" 1 2 3 4 5 6 Worst personal ads "I'm a slave, but not a doormat!" (57) 12 Sep 08, 12:25 AM jjsslave US(OH), 14 mths Heres my thought on this one... While i understand both sides as long as a slave behaves properly and tries to do nothing but bring honor to her Master and is obedient she more than likely wont be treated as a doormat. However if its the opposit then she should have been prepared and straighten up. This in its self is all the more reason that you need to carefully find a partner. Another point is that to place an add that says that is to me just crazy... a good idea to me would be that anyone who places an ad like that needs to pick up a dictionaly and look up the word slave. And i'm not kidding here. Master had me do that at one point just so that i was well aware of exactly what the word meant. While it not only woke me up it also confermed it was what i truly wanted who i am. 12 Sep 08, 2:12 AM Damsel US, 4 mths This is a very interesting topic but as was said before I think saying "I'm not a doormat!" just means they wish to be treated as a human being it certainly doesn't mean they are being bratty or not a "true" slave it just means they want to be treated with at least a little respect. 12 Sep 08, 10:23 AM anjuli UK, 18 mths Sungmehetu wrote: hetaera wrote: "He is a man who understands I have to be strong in my principles now so I can have full confidence and trust in him later, when he is in full control of all that is me. If I don't have faith in Him, I will not let go to be the submissive I need to be, so as to be a complete and ultimately fulfilled woman - and He a contented, well serviced & fulfilled Dominant Man - a Master" Um no that is at best- A 1950's Husband. He marries a good solid wife. She hen pecks Him for the rest of His life. Then converts to the wifes religion. Not a Master. Is there not a misunderstanding here? Hetaera is not here to say but she was quoting someone else's advert there... and then made the point I will too... that the words were used in the context of a SEARCH for a master, not about a Master. She is talking about protecting herself and adhering to her principles during the risky time of choosing a man for a Master and how that leads to the best result LATER, isn't she? I think in that context the phrase is over-used and somewhat cliched but understandable. I have absolutely no need of it now that I am owned but as a way of reinforcing the message to new and eager subs searching and desiring so much, it's not a bad way of reminding them that being dominant does not mean mistreating the submissive. I agreed by the way in my earlier post that it was an interesting thread... just wasn't sure people had realised that the quoted one and previous poster were not here to answer! And I wanted to refute the sort of definitive winding up of the post before mine as I felt it was kind of an ending rather than furthering discussion. Hence the provision of links to the sort of views on slavery that you will meet most often here were offered as an alternative to the statements made above. Just wanted to clarify as I don't think it was that clear myself either. anjuli ~~~ “I, with a deeper instinct, choose a man who compels my strength, who makes enormous demands on me, who does not doubt my courage or my toughness, who does not believe me naive or innocent, who has the courage to treat me like a woman.” - Anais Nin ~~~ 21 Sep 08, 3:31 PM Sungmehetu US(OR), 2 yrs Y! anjuli, I may have misinterpreted it, the first time I read it. The difference is, I spoil Mine...not because I have to, because I choose to. Although she may feel like a "doormat" this morning, while she pulls the dog dirt off the lawn. She feels like a princess when I take out later this evening. My poor pokey goes through a gambit of emotions. However, she knows she is a slave first, wife second, and trusted confidant as well. Sungmehetu. 21 Sep 08, 9:24 PM submissiveheart US(NY), 2 yrs anjuli wrote: Sungmehetu wrote: hetaera wrote: "He is a man who understands I have to be strong in my principles now so I can have full confidence and trust in him later, when he is in full control of all that is me. If I don't have faith in Him, I will not let go to be the submissive I need to be, so as to be a complete and ultimately fulfilled woman - and He a contented, well serviced & fulfilled Dominant Man - a Master" Um no that is at best- A 1950's Husband. He marries a good solid wife. She hen pecks Him for the rest of His life. Then converts to the wifes religion. Not a Master. Is there not a misunderstanding here? Hetaera is not here to say but she was quoting someone else's advert there... and then made the point I will too... that the words were used in the context of a SEARCH for a master, not about a Master. She is talking about protecting herself and adhering to her principles during the risky time of choosing a man for a Master and how that leads to the best result LATER, isn't she? I think in that context the phrase is over-used and somewhat cliched but understandable. I have absolutely no need of it now that I am owned but as a way of reinforcing the message to new and eager subs searching and desiring so much, it's not a bad way of reminding them that being dominant does not mean mistreating the submissive. I agreed by the way in my earlier post that it was an interesting thread... just wasn't sure people had realised that the quoted one and previous poster were not here to answer! And I wanted to refute the sort of definitive winding up of the post before mine as I felt it was kind of an ending rather than furthering discussion. Hence the provision of links to the sort of views on slavery that you will meet most often here were offered as an alternative to the statements made above. Just wanted to clarify as I don't think it was that clear myself either. anjuli Actually I think she had been discussing her own advert, prior to meeting her now Master. It's interesting re-reading this old thread and seeing my old viewpoints. I wrote then as one who was owned, but yes the thread is about the search prior to ownership. Now I'd say that I think people try to specify various requirements in what they want in a dominant. And I don't think that is a bad thing. It's good to be picky. If submissive women go up in arms over how misogynistic some dominant men can be, well I think that *can be* true. The realm of objectification doesn't have to be abusive but there are examples where it has been. I'm thinking of sex workers and how poorly they can get treated sometimes and, frankly, submissive women can get treated poorly at times too. The gender norms around being female (traditional norms) tend to favor submissiveness and deference already, and it doesn't surprise me that assertive female submissives might get judged. **edited for spelling Edited 22 Sep 08, 1:06 AM by submissiveheart 21 Sep 08, 9:29 PM submissiveheart US(NY), 2 yrs Sungmehetu wrote: anjuli, I may have misinterpreted it, the first time I read it. The difference is, I spoil Mine...not because I have to, because I choose to. Although she may feel like a "doormat" this morning, while she pulls the dog dirt off the lawn. She feels like a princess when I take out later this evening. My poor pokey goes through a gambit of emotions. However, she knows she is a slave first, wife second, and trusted confidant as well. Sungmehetu. But perhaps she trusts you and submits so deeply because you have the ability to nurture her as well? 21 Sep 08, 10:06 PM silverrose US(IL), 18 mths Y! I agree, if a person isn't willing to giver her/him self completely then they have no business calling themselves a slave or even a submissive at least until they find a Master/Mistress in which they are compatable. I have given myself to my Master, I am whatever he wishes me to be. I have never given myself freely to anyone before I met him and never new anything of the lifestyle til I met him. Our love for each other is unconditional and we are only for each other. I am obedient, loving and caring, I am his pet kitten, his slut, whore, best friend, lover, slave, and by this time next year I will be his wife. He says that I'm his world, that I brought meaning to his life. He treats me like his baby kitten, loves and cares for me and yes even allows me to have a mind of my own as long as I am respectful. If I get out of line I am put in my place, corrected and punished for it. I love and cherish him all the more for it. He choses not to dehumanize me, and treat me like shit because that isn't the kind of person he is. Both of us had horrible relationships before finding each other and they where all vanilla. I still have trust and abandonment issues but I have come along way thanks to him. Master is very patient and understanding, he has taught me alot. People are human first and foremost, before entering such a relationship said Master/Mistress & Slave/Sub should discuss what exactly is expected of them and what is to become of such a union. Master Vega's silverrose!