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SD! : Web boards : Submission : "New website for dom/mes with head-problem subs"
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New website for dom/mes with head-problem subs (41)

31 Jan 08, 4:04 AM
ravenkaldera
US(MA), 3 yrs

I'm physically broken. Seriously. I'm a crip on a regular basis. So for me it's not a big deal to say that. If I'm hobbling around with a cane, or (even worse) it's the occasional wheelchair day, well, OK, I'm broken. Doesn't make me useless or unworthy. I've still got plenty left that's whole. But I tend to be pretty blunt about that when it comes to myself.

My boy is physically healthy, but he's broken in other ways. He's got Asperger's, so his brain is sort of broken, and he has periodic horrible depression (which he is currently medicated for). Doesn't mean that I don't value him highly. Doesn't mean that he isn't the best boy I ever had.

Just because my favorite piece of clothing develops a rip doesn't mean that it ceases to be my favorite piece of clothing. Ideally, I get out a patch and fix it as best I can. It will never be perfectly unripped again, but it will still be my favorite thing. The car I bought, it was perfectly good and real cheap, because the windshield was cracked, the brakes needed redoing, the volume knob to the radio was gone, there were scratches in the paint, and the passenger side door had to be manually locked. First two were easy fixes, rest I can live with. Drives fine. Gets great gas mileage. Fools to get rid of it.

I think that the sort of folks who would throw out their favorite piece of clothing when it got ripped, or junk their good sturdy car because it got a little rust and needed some repairs, those aren't the type who'd take on these sorts of subs anyway. So, fine.

-Raven Kaldera

31 Jan 08, 9:17 AM
Sword7
US, 17 mths
902-660-194 wrote:
Sword7 wrote:
902-660-194 wrote:
Sword7 wrote:

You'll have to excuse me I've got mental issues of my own so the word broken being used in relation to those with forms of mental illness doesn't exactly put a smile on my face.

hmmm.. i really like the name. in fact it did bring a smile to my face instantly when i first saw it lol.

i am a broken toy, things dont connect right in my brain, therefore i am broken & of course i'm Master's toy so... there ya go ;)

great idea Raven, i'll have to tell Master about it, maybe He can find a minute or two to check it out.

~peace

Well if you like it, good for you.

May you see brighter days

not sure if your comment is supposed to be sarcastic or ???

just thought you would like to know that my days are bright, thank you.

No sarcasm intended.

More of a " Eh, if thats what you think thats cool," deal

Edited 31 Jan 08, 7:57 PM by Sword7

31 Jan 08, 9:22 AM
Sword7
US, 17 mths
ravenkaldera wrote:
I'm physically broken. Seriously. I'm a crip on a regular basis. So for me it's not a big deal to say that. If I'm hobbling around with a cane, or (even worse) it's the occasional wheelchair day, well, OK, I'm broken. Doesn't make me useless or unworthy. I've still got plenty left that's whole. But I tend to be pretty blunt about that when it comes to myself.

My boy is physically healthy, but he's broken in other ways. He's got Asperger's, so his brain is sort of broken, and he has periodic horrible depression (which he is currently medicated for). Doesn't mean that I don't value him highly. Doesn't mean that he isn't the best boy I ever had.

Just because my favorite piece of clothing develops a rip doesn't mean that it ceases to be my favorite piece of clothing. Ideally, I get out a patch and fix it as best I can. It will never be perfectly unripped again, but it will still be my favorite thing. The car I bought, it was perfectly good and real cheap, because the windshield was cracked, the brakes needed redoing, the volume knob to the radio was gone, there were scratches in the paint, and the passenger side door had to be manually locked. First two were easy fixes, rest I can live with. Drives fine. Gets great gas mileage. Fools to get rid of it.

I think that the sort of folks who would throw out their favorite piece of clothing when it got ripped, or junk their good sturdy car because it got a little rust and needed some repairs, those aren't the type who'd take on these sorts of subs anyway. So, fine.

-Raven Kaldera

If thats how you honestly look at it great, but I personally don't like the term "broken" because of my own issues. What others think of the term used in that context is not really something I'm going to get unhinged about.

31 Jan 08, 1:03 PM
jakesemma
US(WA), 15 mths
Y!*
Sword7 wrote:
ravenkaldera wrote:
I'm physically broken. Seriously. I'm a crip on a regular basis. So for me it's not a big deal to say that. If I'm hobbling around with a cane, or (even worse) it's the occasional wheelchair day, well, OK, I'm broken. Doesn't make me useless or unworthy. I've still got plenty left that's whole. But I tend to be pretty blunt about that when it comes to myself.

My boy is physically healthy, but he's broken in other ways. He's got Asperger's, so his brain is sort of broken, and he has periodic horrible depression (which he is currently medicated for). Doesn't mean that I don't value him highly. Doesn't mean that he isn't the best boy I ever had.

Just because my favorite piece of clothing develops a rip doesn't mean that it ceases to be my favorite piece of clothing. Ideally, I get out a patch and fix it as best I can. It will never be perfectly unripped again, but it will still be my favorite thing. The car I bought, it was perfectly good and real cheap, because the windshield was cracked, the brakes needed redoing, the volume knob to the radio was gone, there were scratches in the paint, and the passenger side door had to be manually locked. First two were easy fixes, rest I can live with. Drives fine. Gets great gas mileage. Fools to get rid of it.

I think that the sort of folks who would throw out their favorite piece of clothing when it got ripped, or junk their good sturdy car because it got a little rust and needed some repairs, those aren't the type who'd take on these sorts of subs anyway. So, fine.

-Raven Kaldera

If thats how you honestly look at it great, but I personally don't like the term "broken" because of my own issues. What others think of the term used in that context is not really something I'm going to get unhinged about.

Raven, emotional trauma to me seems different then say a physical issue or a chemical one that is fixable via medication, or use of a wheel chair. in that sense, even then I don't really think of it as being broken, I think of it as a challenge to over come... like my being deaf in one ear... it makes things challenging for me at times, and I don't always "hear" everything that is said to me, but I don't ever consider myself broken, I just adapt... which is what I think you and josh have done...

The term broken is just so negative that it makes people feel bad when they hear it, when your facing long term issues, having a more positive outlook on it, or a less depressive way to see it, often helps... I find that the mindset is #1 the first priority in facing the hot water of needing help, or being willing to accept it...

Broken is such a negative term, and the idea that you can just patch or super glue something, rather then fixing it to be better then new, might depress some people...

As my master said about the Masterpiece under neath, for someone with mental and emotional trauma, I think thats a much better description, simply because its holding you back from being all that you can be, which once you scrape off all the damage, you CAN be all that you can be, and you will be better then you ever were before... not repaired or damaged goods.... but the underlying "hidden treasure"....

I've never thought of you or joshua as broken raven. Even though I recently learned that he had aspergers, I never thought he was broken, my eldest brother has aspergers, he has some social challenges, but he works, has 2 kids, is married, lives a pretty normal life.

I just don't see it as being broken. But I don't know, this is just all subjective and it is just a word, I just have trouble at times with words because of the negative impact those terms often have, it is typically an insult.

1 Feb 08, 2:52 PM
postulant
12 mths
770-326-260 wrote:
<snip> But, not everything broken is without value. Not everything broken is useless. Sometimes, taking great care to "mend a break" and to put the precious item in a state where the break doesn't interfere with the otherwise beautiful and valuable nature of the item, can be quite rewarding...especially if one is able to restore the full value of that precious possession and to get more years of use and enjoyment from it. Perhaps the owner would value this property even more than if it were "perfect" to begin with.

margo, this is such an important sentiment and you've expressed it beautifully!!

Raven, I'm really looking forward to the development of your new site. Best wishes!

p.

2 Feb 08, 2:40 AM
196-923-708
CA, 11 mths
Traditional Persian carpet weaving demands that every rug must have a flaw woven into it. Their idea was that only god is perfect (they were religious), and to aspire to make a perfect rug was hubris inviting terrible consequences.

So, by metaphor, every human has their own unique Persian flaw that's part of what makes them special. In Hamlet all such flaws are fatal. In my own experience they hurt like hell, but can be survived. Working on my own is part of why I'm here, and my drive to submit to my own Mistress.

I suppose flawed and broken are different.

Edited 2 Feb 08, 7:01 AM by 196-923-708

2 Feb 08, 2:49 AM
770-326-260
US, 23 mths
196-923-708 wrote:
Traditional Persian carpet weaving tradition demands that every rug must have a flaw woven into it. Their idea was that only god is perfect (they were religious), and to aspire to make a perfect rug was hubris inviting terrible consequences.

So, by metaphor, every human has their own unique Persian flaw that's part of what makes them special. In Hamlet all such flaws are fatal. In my own experience they hurt like hell, but can be survived. Working on my own is part of why I'm here, and my drive to submit to my own Mistress.

I suppose flawed and broken are different.

oh my goodness..i was just studying the various border patterns, fields, grids and tessellations of persian carpets (i am making persian carpet inspired quilts) and my studies revealed that indeed, there MUST be a flaw built into it. A wonderful concept! And very comforting considering that none of us is ever going to be truly whole, complete and perfect! It's so interesting that you used this as an example..

Edited to add: Thank you Hawkspostulant

slave margo

Edited 2 Feb 08, 2:51 AM by 770-326-260

2 Feb 08, 2:57 AM
shedragon
US(VA), 15 mths
Y!*
Wow!

Raven, thank you so much for initiating this undertaking. As a "broken toy" myself, I'm grateful that there will (hopefully) be a resource available to help any future Owner cope with my challenges.

Oh, and remember the old saying: to make an omelette, you have to break some eggs! ;)

It is better to remain uncollared than to be led by the wrong leash.

2 Feb 08, 3:15 AM
shyfox
12 mths
Bah! You get a bunch of people together over a common goal (i.e. M/s or subs with mental issues) and you spend the majority of the time arguing and nitpicking over inconsequential things. Who cares if the page is called "broken toys" or "wormy's guide to ass maggot heaven" if it has something useful to offer? I think this is a wonderful idea, and I look forward to reading what others contribute.

I would contribute for the heck of it but I've never been in a TPE relationship and I'm certainly not a mental health professional. Although, if you want a guide on how to stupefy said mental health professionals I could scare that up. I've had five different professional diagnoses in five years so I guess that makes me an expert in the field. ;)

2 Feb 08, 2:13 PM
770-326-260
US, 23 mths
shyfox wrote:
Bah! You get a bunch of people together over a common goal (i.e. M/s or subs with mental issues) and you spend the majority of the time arguing and nitpicking over inconsequential things. Who cares if the page is called "broken toys" or "wormy's guide to ass maggot heaven" if it has something useful to offer? I think this is a wonderful idea, and I look forward to reading what others contribute.

I would contribute for the heck of it but I've never been in a TPE relationship and I'm certainly not a mental health professional. Although, if you want a guide on how to stupefy said mental health professionals I could scare that up. I've had five different professional diagnoses in five years so I guess that makes me an expert in the field. ;)

What does "Bah" mean really? Like Bah Humbug? (that's a bunch of garbage?) thanks margo

slave margo

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