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	SD! : Web boards : Service : "what use" what use (7) Sun 30 Mar 08, 1:55 PM Merlin UK, 9 yrs Y! is someone who tells you they are a submissive yet does not enter your bed saying 'how can I please...' and rather gives you a diatribe on your physical appearance? 30 Mar 08, 3:10 PM Chastiser UK, 8 yrs Y! release and replace. Mike Let Me unchain your mind and your sexuality will follow. Taking part in the Macmillan 4x4 charity event in 2008. please donate to this http://www.justgiving.com/teameuropcar 30 Mar 08, 4:29 PM 000-874-172 UK, 5 yrs Target practice for a housebrick cleverly disguised as a lightweight paddle using some blu-tak and an old pillowcase - I'll show you submission - FREAK! Sean Master's l'il oneŽ(her Rights are Mine in reserve) Edited 30 Mar 08, 4:30 PM by 000-874-172 30 Mar 08, 5:03 PM Master_David1965 US(CA), 24 mths Chastiser wrote: release and replace. Mike Precisely. Don't tell Me what I can't do. Instead, show Me what is available to Me and I will embrace all that I can with all that I have. 30 Mar 08, 5:30 PM Michael_X UK, 3 yrs Either the entry criteria for your bed are set way too low or the submissive needs to work on combining open honest communication with tact and respect. Since you didn't post this on other topics I presume you are looking for a serious response. However you really haven't provided enough information. If what they said was accurate then they may be of great use to you in bringing matters to your attention that need dealing with. If it wasn't then you have to work out why they said this. What was it about your behaviour that provoked such. Again you may learn something useful about yourself. Michael 30 Mar 08, 8:11 PM shyfox 12 mths Merlin wrote: what use is someone who tells you they are a submissive yet does not enter your bed saying 'how can I please...' and rather gives you a diatribe on your physical appearance? Well how did you guys get all the way to the bed without her seeing you? Or was the appearance issue all about the err weenie? Perhaps you rushed the sex without getting to know your partner, or maybe she has tourette syndrome and couldn't help herself. 30 Mar 08, 8:37 PM Master_Howard US(OK), 2 yrs Y! Merlin wrote: what use (What use) is someone who tells you they are a submissive yet does not enter your bed saying 'how can I please...' and rather gives you a diatribe on your physical appearance? Was this a first meeting? Was s/he untrained? Is brattiness one of the characteristics that drew you to this one? There are so many holes in the original post that it's difficult to make a determination on the context that gave rise to what you describe. Breaking back to your real question, however, I would say that this is a perfect training opportunity. As One who trains female slaves/subs, I would say this sub could have potential, but the first question that rises in my mind is: Who's in charge here? My slave is aware how to approach me in order to avoid the appearance of "topping from the bottom." she has had occasion to suggest that my five o'clock shadow looks more like something from two days later, but she won't criticize my decision not to shave. If we're going out, that's a cue to me that I may not look my best. If she comments about my diet, she also states that she wants to have me around for quite a few more years. Observations about my personal presentation are helpful, and she's usually right on the money. I trust her with (among other things) being sure I don't embarrass myself by the way I've dressed. One training exercise I did with my girl early on was having her shave me. I was a bloody mess by the time she finished, and she was very nervous about how I would respond to her damage. That was an assessment exercise that helped me gauge her attitude and reaction. Probably in your case, I would advise against putting a blade in your sub's hands near your throat... at least for the time being. Do tell more about how all this came about. It sounds like an interesting challenge. Why did your subbie get into the lifestyle anyway? It may take a little getting back to those basics to see if you can make use of this one or, as one Respondant offered, "release and replace." Peace and blessings to your household, Master Howard 31 Mar 08, 6:49 AM masterfiremaam US(AZ), 2 yrs Ask them why they are projecting their insecurity about their own appearance onto you. If they get mad, storm out and never come back, well, you haven't lost much. If they, however, begin to really consider what you've said, there still might be potential there. Projection is universal...what we see in others, we see in ourselves. If we like it in ourselves, we love it in others; if we hate it in ourselves, we hate it in others. Most people aren't even aware that this is going on. Master Fire "Be excellent to each other." - Bill and Ted *air guitar*