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	SD! : Web boards : Website help : "What the fuck, people?" 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 What the fuck, people? (73) 23 May 08, 6:32 AM 953-171-915 22 mths Well, for my Master and i, W/we are on a journey together. That journey started somewhere. Somewhere happened to be online. It has been a constant progression, FILLED with ups and downs. W/we share in EVERY aspect of each O/other's life. i am not going to waste space and anyone's time here and try and justify my relationship. However, keep in mind that it is critisizing others and allienating others that started the whole problem of truly good people leaving. i have often noted how there are some people here who are very indiferent to the newbies, the ones in ldr, and the online people. Again, can't it be said that everyone starts somewhere? For the record... O/our goal is 24/7 and total control... W/we are working for it and it WILL happen...and as my Master says, "It just isn't going to happen over night." This problem isn't about my Master and i and i am not intending to make it about U/us. This problem revolves around not people here who apparently don't think about who they might hurt with thoughtless remarks. i do think that maybe a little less critisizing could take place here. Welcome all who want to learn and respect the differences in people, their thoughts, and their life situations. (Not accusing you by any means...just a general statement for all to consider) i DOOOOOOOO feel bad for Krista or any O/others who have been hurt by some really good people leaving. i know i am not a key player around here. i know i am nobody in the grand scheme of things. If TSR is really that much of a clique than yikes, i won't frequent here much anymore either. If TSR really is just for real time 24/7 slaves who are experienced and knowledgeable first hand, then well, i do apologize deeply for invading a place i should not be. 23 May 08, 6:37 AM 403-930-468 US(VA), 9 mths i have had enough i do know the ups and downs my Master and i have had some that would make some you 24/7 people leave the relationship i'm sure in our relationship already. Sorry to those i respect who are still here i couldn't sleep and Master will probably be upset i came back, we talked after my post to little linnet's statement. my chest is hurting and i am not about personal attacks i'm real life D/s althouth i hate labels. And to Jake, Jake's emma who memoed to support me and Sir MichelX i think it is and a few who go by slave numbers i am sorry i can't live up to your thoughts of me, but thank you for your support. i am not strong enough to be here with the state of this board right now and griefing or not. i don't eccept personal attacks on people as right or fair or my view of D/s or decussions. And i don't thing many of you know the meaning of D/s though you say you do. So for now i am not deleting my profile, but will be steping back 'till people can act better and not attack people or i can handle it. And i use to think D/sers may not agree, but we all were not bad i hope Jane's version of D/s wasn't what i've seen here because i am not proud to say i am apart of it if it was right now. i know my Master will support me here i don't see much true D/sers left here and those who are feel the need to hide or try to get back to life. Thank you, tracey P.s. no it is suppose to be for all in the lifestyle, but i haven't found it much that way, but do try to find your way to all online and long distances people. Master reads and approves all posts she writes and may edit or delete if possible any post she writes, she has no secrets from her Master and is totally honest with Him and has no need to lie to her Master. Like wise her Master Has seen her profile and approved it. Edited 23 May 08, 7:08 AM by 403-930-468 23 May 08, 8:18 AM Mistress_Tiara UK, 2 yrs Steve_Vakesh wrote: lili wrote: (IMO it would have been nice for at least one person to fill us in on what's going on. As it is, we know nothing about what's happened.) This is not entirely correct. Carolyn left you her contact information and you could have used it, as she suggested, if you had questions. (And Carolyn was rather hurt that you didn't.) Tanos could have done the same or contacted me. After Tanos publicly asked for an explanation yesterday, I sent him a memo with my explanation. Steve I memoed Tanos too, giving an overview of the situation and explaining My motivations behind starting the 'Limits' thread, and he memoed Me back. I think people are genuinely trying to help and keep you informed. *~*Mistress Tiara*~* Edited 23 May 08, 8:20 AM by Mistress_Tiara 23 May 08, 11:00 AM charlie UK, 10 mths As with any forum blow-up, I get the sense from some (not all, of course) people's posts that the board and its members are here as a source of entertainment (deep, serious, intellectual, whatever - but still like TV). It's a forum - which means user generated content. Which means, if you don't like what's being posted or the tone, you have the power here to offset that. Ignore the stuff you don't like. And most importantly - post *yourself*. "Be the change you want to see in the world." Charlie. ...under Lili. 23 May 08, 12:08 PM subsfaith UK, 3 yrs TSR, and latterly SD, has always been an valuable M/s resource for me. There are times when I have been quiet for several months, and other times when I have posted questions and thoughts of my own, and also I have answered other peoples posts. Shamefully I admit there have been times when I have added fuel to the fire too. But in recent times I have figured out that there is no benefit for me to get so involved with, what is essentially, an online forum, other than to offer help and support when is has been requested and when it suits me. It has been this decision that has allowed me to miss out on the upset of flaming posts. Generally I see little constructive in them and I walk on by. It appears that some people feel the personal usefulness of SD has expired and they want to move on. Some will be missed by me more than others, for no more reasons than I can relate to some better than others, but I do wish them all well. Moving on can be challenging, but despite the challenge, it is the right thing to do. Life doesn't stand still. Hopefully SD will continue to be a valuable resource for me, however, my life does not start or finish with SD. It is merely a resource that sometimes I find useful, and sometimes I do not. Best wishes to everyone, those past and present, Faith :: smiles :: 23 May 08, 2:25 PM Tanos UK, 11 yrs Y! Steve_Vakesh wrote: After Tanos publicly asked for an explanation yesterday, I sent him a memo with my explanation. He has not bothered to log on since then to read it. As I was a bit busy yesterday and Wednesday evening, to put it mildly (popi and I moved charlie's worldly goods from London to Manchester in a van.) Different people left for different reasons, though all of these are related to the unpleasant 'sociopaths' thread (and since Tanos participated in that thread and presumably read what I wrote there, I remain uncertain as to what more explanation he requires). I still don't understand why a thread that is basically one person claiming to be a sociopath and other people telling him he doesn't fit the diagnostic criteria, amounts to tolerance for genuine sociopaths. Only Tanos can explain the purpose of TSR (now SD!), establish limits for acceptable conduct, and define its moral foundation. A list that welcomes sociopaths clearly lacks a moral center. Now that's hardly fair or accurate, is it? Tanos www.tanos.org.uk Edited 23 May 08, 2:38 PM by Tanos 23 May 08, 2:30 PM 662-935-655 US, 2 yrs lili wrote: Hi, I understand you being fed up. I too was quite shocked, but to be honest I was most shocked by the fact that people who have been around for a long time have chosen to leave without really saying why. (IMO it would have been nice for at least one person to fill us in on what's going on. As it is, we know nothing about what's happened.) Anyway, nothing ever stays the same forever, things change, people change and relationships change....that's life (and this is still, don't forget, only a website.) lili x Respectfully some of us seemed to leave without reply but maybe had a life-crisis. Like when my Master died and my computer at the same time. Folks have lives - sickness, kids, work, and computer problems, some of us oldsters even die. But some may be a response to the changes. i do too like to hear from others doing the "real deal" - just a thought, take it or leave it. j/L Papa's own always - still Proud to wear HIS collar: rest in peace, Master! 23 May 08, 2:37 PM Tanos UK, 11 yrs Y! 662-935-655 wrote: lili wrote: I understand you being fed up. I too was quite shocked, but to be honest I was most shocked by the fact that people who have been around for a long time have chosen to leave without really saying why. Respectfully some of us seemed to leave without reply but maybe had a life-crisis. lili's really talking about recent events, with people leaving and quite clearly being annoyed with us for not doing The Right Thing about running the site. When it wasn't actually being said what I'm supposed to have done wrong, it makes it hard to correct things and/or defend how I'm trying to run things. Regards, Tanos www.tanos.org.uk Edited 23 May 08, 2:38 PM by Tanos 23 May 08, 3:00 PM Scarpia UK, 2 yrs Given it two weeks since I wrote this and I'm still not impressed by the changes. I suppose our needs were too basic for a site which feels a need to justify advertisers expenditure by drawing in the most eclectic possible membership -- we hoped simply to find somewhere to exchange experiences with others in involved in loving Ms/Ds long tern relationships. It has been nice know you. Scarpia Tutor and owner of "cat" (aka 229-555-494) 23 May 08, 5:34 PM SixThreeFive SE, 21 mths I've been gone for some time now, and I'm very sad to see TSR have one of these forum blow ups. I have full understanding for both Steve removing Carolyn and for Tanos attempts at doing The Right Thing. It's very hard to know what the right thing is, especially with so many of us having different views on just that topic. It seems to me that what we have is a lot of people going through dramatic changes in their lives, which is affecting their participation at (and monitoring of) SD!. We also have a large group of people, who are tired, worn out and simply stretched too far. It'll take time, but I do believe that at some point, things will be resolved and which ever community or messageboard that connects those of us in M/s relationships, will again hold interesting discussions. My best to all of you, Sanna I blog, he blogs, do you blog? Next page