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	SD! : Web boards : Practical IE : "Growing old disgracefully" 1 2 3 4 5 Growing old disgracefully (43) Fri 18 Jul 08, 12:37 PM ColdHarbour UK, 13 mths  I can't help noticing that when people of our persuasion talk about age, there is often an underlying assumption that it is only Dominants who get old and that, therefore, the 'age question' boils down to the question of age-gaps — as in older Dominants with younger slaves/submissives. And yet do not slaves get old as well? Of course they do! My question is therefore just this — if 'young Mistresses' grow into 'mature Dominatrices', and 'young Masters' grow into dirty old men like me, what do young slaves become when age has withered their looks and they are no longer as physically able to serve as they once did? Are they supposed to simply fade away into vanilla retirement and pretend that a lifetime of slave-service was just a passing fad? Personally, I have long had a plan in place to make sure mine will be taken care of for as long as they live without ever having to be returned to freedom. But has anyone else given any thought to the subject? It just seems to me that, total enslavement implies at least the possibility of enslavement for life and that one day, a slave for life will turn into a little old lady or a little old man who needs taking care of no less and probably more than when they were young. You cannot run away from what is inside you — African proverb 18 Jul 08, 1:05 PM Ms_Valentine UK, 7 mths  This is a very good point that you bring up and probably is not discussed much normally as it is not 'hot' or 'sexy' but of vital importance to the slave who may well be completely dependent upon the Master/Mistress for financial well being, health care and housing, to name but three issues. Goodness, I hope that slave owners do give thoughts to these matters and don't put off making plans the way we can do when faced with thoughts of pensions etc. I look forward to hearing what owners are doing or may plan to give security to their slaves later years. I should say this is not something I have to consider in my own relationship as my sub and I will get married in the not too distant future and all out finances legally will be joined, even if control and practical use of them rests with me. 18 Jul 08, 1:07 PM 391-117-605 US(WI), 8 mths  what a wonderful topic, CH. as an aging slave (albeit new to this lifestyle) i wish to be well used and appreciated for more years that i have left to give. i will be very curious to see what others, far more experienced, have to say about this very "timely" (surely for me!!) topic. emma Master J's naked bitch fuckslut slave and property that exits to please and serve Him. 18 Jul 08, 1:07 PM pirate528x US, 3 yrs  M/s is supposed to be a lifetime commitment both ways.I myself prefer some gray hair over some young airhead. MT 18 Jul 08, 2:12 PM ColdHarbour UK, 13 mths  I have to be honest and say I had never considered this problem myself until I turned 50 and realised I needed to provide for slaves who are by and large decades younger than me, given that I'll not live forever. Legal marriage (or civil partnership) is certainly an option. I have even considered pension plans, trust funds, healthcare packages and all the rest since, although finally liberal enough to recognise gay marriages, it seems the UK still lags behind many third-world countries when it comes to recognising the rights of those in poly-relationships. As one African refugee so aptly observed: "But I thought Britain was a civilised country!" However, I guess my real point was not so much about how one addresses the practical/financial issues — issues that apply to all relationships — but rather how one meets the physical and emotional needs of a slave in the twilight of their life. I mean, wicked bastard though I can be, there seems to me something vaguely unseemly about ordering a slave to hand over her walking-stick so you can tie her wrists to the whipping-post! Then again, given that one of mine seems to be actually looking forward to the day when she will have me helpless in my rocking chair so she can wipe the drool of senility from my chin, I may well change my mind on that score. Seriously though, I'm not sure that even I have a complete answer. All I do know is that having more than one and having given them the right to recruit and more or less run my little harem for me, my only hope is that, given their age range and devotion to each other, it will all sort itself out in time and that they will continue to take care of each other as they do now, long after I am worm-food. Anyone got any better ideas? You cannot run away from what is inside you — African proverb Edited 18 Jul 08, 2:26 PM by ColdHarbour 18 Jul 08, 3:22 PM ravenkaldera US(MA), 3 yrs  I'm 14 years older than Joshua, and my illness will eventually kill me, so unless I get hit by a bus he'll outlive me and still have many years left. He does not want to serve ayone else after me. However, the one thing that he has given up in order to do this job is his longing to be in a monastery. As he's not Catholic, Buddhist, or Hindu, and as our religion has no functioning monasteries right now, part of what we're doing over the next 20 years is to found one for him to retire to. It will be my gift to him for a lifetime of service. -Raven Kaldera -If you're in charge, it's all on your head. If it's not all on your head, then you're not really in charge. 18 Jul 08, 5:45 PM Mistress_Tiara UK, 23 mths  ravenkaldera wrote: I'm 14 years older than Joshua, and my illness will eventually kill me, so unless I get hit by a bus he'll outlive me and still have many years left. He does not want to serve ayone else after me. However, the one thing that he has given up in order to do this job is his longing to be in a monastery. As he's not Catholic, Buddhist, or Hindu, and as our religion has no functioning monasteries right now, part of what we're doing over the next 20 years is to found one for him to retire to. It will be my gift to him for a lifetime of service. -Raven Kaldera And you always say you are not romantic! I cant think of anything more romantic and lovely than establishing a monastery for Joshua to go once you aren't there anymore *~*Mistress Tiara*~* 18 Jul 08, 6:16 PM slave_pete 5 mths  Slaves shall never grow old, they're only changing in their appearance 18 Jul 08, 7:42 PM 315-076-759 UK, 6 mths  This is a very interesting thread. As a 68 year old slave my role is rather different to a much younger one with libido to match! Lady Mistress who is herself somewhere in her middle years, - I am forbidden to say how old, - is acutely aware of my limitations. I try to be her slave to the best of my ability but there is one thing I find very difficult and that is to rest when told to. I feel I should be always on the go for her but I do tire easily these days and get breathless if doing a lot of manual work such as gardening etc. There must be other older slaves out there. Why not send me a memo? No advert intended, so apologies if I have broken the Rule here. Slave/Sklavos 18 Jul 08, 8:28 PM ColdHarbour UK, 13 mths  315-076-759 wrote: This is a very interesting thread. As a 68 year old slave ... apologies if I have broken the Rule here. you've not broken any of my rules. On the contrary, it is one's like you who give me faith in humanity. Not that most little monkeys deserve it, but ones like you do. you keep going! you are only as old as the woman you feel You cannot run away from what is inside you — African proverb 19 Jul 08, 11:59 AM masterfiremaam US(AZ), 2 yrs  My girl simply turned into a retired hippy. she is in her mid 50s, I am 37. her and her husband have been together as long as I've been alive and she has 25 years of experience to my 10. Old slaves don't die, they come back as zombies. Master Fire ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Oh Hai! Blessinz of teh Ceiling Cat be apwn yu, srsly. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Next page