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	SD! : Web boards : Practical IE : "Growing old disgracefully" 1 2 3 4 5 Growing old disgracefully (42) 19 Oct 08, 8:32 PM TheCaptain IE, 4 yrs anjuli wrote: I think I've shared before some of the story of my master's intro to the lifestyle by a family friend who turned out to be a slave. Her master had died some years before and she recognised the potential in a young J and helped him in his early days. anjuli ...in memory of my sister H. beautifully written, and obviously from our heart anjuli. May it never be broken. S. 19 Oct 08, 8:44 PM EndlessRoad US, 3 mths Amazing how like to human beings are these Masters and slaves. (Irony) 19 Oct 08, 9:25 PM Andrin DE, 4 mths EndlessRoad wrote: Amazing how like to human beings are these Masters and slaves. (Irony) Irony or not: I don't find this amazing at all. The masters and slaves that enjoy and use this forum, do so because they want to learn and to participate from the experience of others. A master that gives a shit about the well being of his slave most likely is not to be found on this site. And I don't think that living a master/slave relationship does "dehumanise" me. Regards Andrin 19 Oct 08, 10:25 PM 662-935-655 US, 2 yrs ColdHarbour wrote: Growing old disgracefully I can't help noticing that when people of our persuasion talk about age, there is often an underlying assumption that it is only Dominants who get old and that, therefore, the 'age question' boils down to the question of age-gaps — as in older Dominants with younger slaves/submissives. And yet do not slaves get old as well? Of course they do! My question is therefore just this — if 'young Mistresses' grow into 'mature Dominatrices', and 'young Masters' grow into dirty old men like me, what do young slaves become when age has withered their looks and they are no longer as physically able to serve as they once did? Are they supposed to simply fade away into vanilla retirement and pretend that a lifetime of slave-service was just a passing fad? Personally, I have long had a plan in place to make sure mine will be taken care of for as long as they live without ever having to be returned to freedom. But has anyone else given any thought to the subject? It just seems to me that, total enslavement implies at least the possibility of enslavement for life and that one day, a slave for life will turn into a little old lady or a little old man who needs taking care of no less and probably more than when they were young. Awesome topic - my Late Master used to say "Grow old with me, the best is yet to come" He was 2 weeks shy of being 11 years older than i and died at 62 and He was right the bes was yet to come - and sadly now seems passed. That not just because of His death, but because of the way my own body has suddenly become. At 52 years of age it might seem premature to say i'm old. But all the type 2 diabetics i've known - a few - with my health issues including being a V E R Y B I G Beautiful Woman, as Master put it, have died in their mid-to-late fifties. So i think FOR ME, 52 is getting older. And i gained over 200 lbs since i've been gradually less and less able to exercise or be even nominally physically active, due to spinal disc deterioration. Even the most simple exercise is anguish. Master and i both had our baggage and both were happy for the first time as W/we got older - He had briefly been happy with His 3d wife who died before W/we met by a long time and then, or so He said, with me, though i'll be damned if i fully understand why as sometimes - due to my past and mental health challenges - i was a royal pain in the butt until He collared me and W/we went real life M/s in the last 4 1/2 years of our marriage until He died. When i was very young - before school where i found out about bullies and abuse - when my Dad (bio-father) lived at Home i'd been a happy kid, but never again until Master collared me And when Dad left my mom was violently and verbally abusive while a neighbor's acquaintance molested me in my teens, for which the neighbor's husband beat the crap out of Him, so at least i was protected. But i also had mental health issues and 3 abusive marriages, the first causing my legal-blindness) Master and i always agreed on one thing, outside of age-play of course, but that neither of U/us ever wanted to be young again. W/we enjoyed growing old together immensely.(And about age-play, He put it this way - He liked having a "baby girl" but preferred one with tits and without diapers. It was a totally consenting adult thing, which i clarify for those among U/us still suffering from being sexually abused as kids, so as not to confuse anyone, esp. the N/newbies!) Yeah, i'm sad He died, but i'm also grateful - through M/s in the last 4 1/2 years of a 14 1/2 year marriage - i knew some happiness in life, as did He. And despite His passing and i can't believe W/we're coming up on the anniversary of that next mo.,i can honestly say i don't understand those who want to be young again. For me - and for Him too - O/our younger days were hell. For me my mom and 3 prior vanilla spouses and a neighbor's friend in a sexual way wall all abuse. For Him there was violent assaults by His father's partner, bullies at school (For U/us B/both) and some emotional abuse at home as well as 2 out of 3 prior wives being way beyond abusive or trying to -as an alpha Male you can be sure He didn't stick around for much more, even when that meant that He knew no hell like a woman scorned for 6 mos. of His life - and His 3d prior died sadly, although He loved her greatly. Nope, those last 4 1/2 years, He told me before He died He wouldn't have traded anything for one moment of that time and i feel the same. Find S/someone in this Lifestyle if Y/you haven't who is right for Y/you, take Y/your time and grow old with T/them - the Best really is yet to come. i've become friends with another M/s widow not on here and talked to a few Masters, One now a good friend, who have lost their slaves, i imagine this is true in other gender or beyond gender arrangements including poly situations too) i don't know of O/one yet who regrets the time they had together. And i know i am so lucky as most W/women i know - esp. vanilla and straight - are so unhappy and have been all their lives to hear it. i am blessed and/or fortunate to have had 4 1/2 years with the greatest Person i have ever known. i thank Heavens and Earth and All else for that every day. j/L Papa's owned always: still proudly wearing His Collar and Ring, rest in peace Beloved Master/Husband! alias granny matrika, ye olde crone and all 'round wyrding woman, blessed be! (back out of the broom closet again-GRIN!) 20 Oct 08, 1:46 AM 428-822-649 3 mths Thank you for your beautiful account, so beautiful that I had difficulty in reading the last few paragraphs because of a veil of tears in my eyes. A wonderful Master AND a wonderful slave. I too am 'older' and very new to the lifestyle...having only been Owned since the end of September, and am so grateful for the variety of posts (both old and new) that are educating and informing me. (slaverica) 20 Oct 08, 7:34 AM Just_Angel US(CO), 2 yrs £ Y! I am far from well aged at only 23, so I don't consider this topic as often as I should... though I have considered it. I know a lady many years my senior who watched me grow into myself and my station. She was there as a confidant and friend before, during, and after my last relationship. She continues to show me grace and wisdom. Said lady is an 'old slave'. She's grey, disabled now, and has a hard time with her day to day living. While she is no longer owned, she still serves as an outstanding member of our community and is, in no way, ready to be put out to pasture. I credit much of my knowledge and resilience to the late night conversations we've had and to all she's taught me. When I see the glow in her eyes, she's no less a slave now than ever. I can only wish that when I reach the age of silver hair and a rocking chair, I remember who I am. I wish to be like my friend with her stories and ever kind ear... ready to serve my family and my community. If I am blessed enough, I will also be serving an owner. "Skin against skin blood and bone You're all by yourself but you're not alone You wanted in now you're here Driven by hate consumed by fear Let the bodies hit the floor" ~Drowning Pool 20 Oct 08, 1:47 PM Sgiandubh US(AR), 2 yrs Y! I'm certainly glad someone has broached this subject on this site. I have talked with other M/s couples and few have actually discussed this subject. My slave and I have talked about her continuing service after I'm gone. So far, out of our friends ,I haven't found a Master that could care for her in the manner that I wish. The only Master I would want to care for her has a slave and my slave wouldn't do well in a poly. My desire is to ask this Master to find an appropriate replacement for me in her life if I have not found one. The financials worry me more than anything. To Who do I leave the "estate" to ensure her support. How do I do this? I know that as husband/wife she will inherit but how do I ensure that her new Master won't leave her destitute. How do I ensure that she will be cared for in her senior years without me. All this not to mention O/our grandchildren and their inheritance. Oh, and for the record, I would love to have an older more experienced slave befriend my ceilidh. We cherish our senior citizens for their wisdom and life experiences. Why wouldn't a Master/Mistress not want a more wise slave! I think even My slave would be more accepting of an older slave in the household. Anjuli: Thank you for sharing such a beautiful and hard time in your life with the rest of us. My respects to your Master. 22 Oct 08, 2:06 AM 000-733-561 BE, 8 yrs Y! As my Mistress was sick a few years ago, She started considering what to do with Her property. So, I'm promissed to a new Mistress in the case She would pass away ( but she's healty at the moment). The thing that worries Her is if at that time I would still be of any use because of my age. 25 Oct 08, 12:15 AM meriaton US(MN), 3 yrs As my Master is only 3 years older than i, i really don't know how to answer this. i hope that together we will grow old, but i don't know what i would do if He went before i did. That's definitely something about which we should speak, and i can then put here a better answer. meriaton - slave of Akhenaton http://meriaton.byethost12.com/blog/blog4.php Sometimes a sense of humor is the only sense i have! 31 Oct 08, 2:24 AM 930-197-747 US, 11 mths Y! 000-733-561 wrote: As my Mistress was sick a few years ago, She started considering what to do with Her property. So, I'm promissed to a new Mistress in the case She would pass away ( but she's healty at the moment). The thing that worries Her is if at that time I would still be of any use because of my age. On the last point you make - doesn't the community feel an obligation towards its older or sicker members? I mean, over and above the care Anjuli describes here (thanks for that, btw)? Just asking. You have freedom when you're easy in your harness. ~Robert Frost Edited 31 Oct 08, 2:25 AM by 930-197-747 Next page