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	SD! : Web boards : Discipline : "Public Punishments" Public Punishments (9) Mon 21 Jul 08, 11:53 AM Master_Fusion AU, 2 yrs  I am interested in finding out what you do to your sub/slave when she has been bad and you need to punish her in public? 21 Jul 08, 12:10 PM anjuli UK, 16 mths  Take her home and let her know how disappointed you are? She will do the rest I assure you. anjuli ~~~ “I, with a deeper instinct, choose a man who compels my strength, who makes enormous demands on me, who does not doubt my courage or my toughness, who does not believe me naive or innocent, who has the courage to treat me like a woman.” - Anais Nin ~~~ 21 Jul 08, 1:44 PM 000-874-172 UK, 5 yrs  Master_Fusion wrote: Public Punishments I am interested in finding out what you do to your sub/slave when she has been bad and you need to punish her in public? There is little point in punishing in public; it will reflect badly on you not only as an M-type, but as a person; by not punishing her in public, you can actually dis-associate yourself from that behaviour, and make her look the bigger fool than she already is (see where this is going yet?); if your s-type acts up, take note of what's happening and deal with it at home, at your earliest opportunity. Let her know (quietly, but in public) that you're not happy, but she needs to know - at the time, she's displeased you. When you get home - your house - 'then' you punish her, in whatever fashion is appropriate to you, to the situation that happened in public; I suppose she could tell you but 'you didn't stop me did you, M-type', but then, why would you (parent or M-type, delete as applicable) stop a kid (or s-type, delete as applicable) having that perfectly good temper tantrum in the middle of a street, where you get to walk off, blame free, so they can embarrass themselves to their heart's content. If they wanna go nuts and have a rave, run down the aisles in a shop (or whatever), sod it, they can do that too..walk off, let 'them' humiliate themselves, note the problem, and say 'I'll deal with you when we get home', just like you would an unruly kid. Then when you get there, and they're calm, and they can reflect on it. Oh. Remember, ignorance is bliss, but you have the upper hand of keeping them in check. An s-type can only ignore an M-type for so long, even if that ignorance results in release. The fact that you consciously choose to ignore her bad behaviour while you out with her 'could' end up being the humiliating card enough to teach her a lesson in beavhious in the long run. If not, the fact that you choose to deal with it in private says a lot for your character (and very little for hers), where you can do what you will about it. Cupboard time, whip, 10000 lines, early bed with chains, monotonous list of chores punishment. Anything. You can't fail, but you won't be letting her down. Master's l'il one®(her Rights are Mine in reserve) 21 Jul 08, 11:12 PM 544-282-976 US(NJ), 23 mths  the only really "public" thing Master has done (besides the swat on the ass which happens anyway at regular intervals wether in private or public) was when we were at a friends house. there were several of us there, i sassed Master when He asked me to get Him ice cream. He then looked at me in His "Master" look and said "and you can ask the others at the table what they want too before you get your own." this was subtle to everyone else, matter of fact no one noticed or thought anything of me asking what they wanted and serving them cause well, we're all friends! but *i* knew and Master knew and i blushed deeply and my heart raced. it doesn't have to be the dramatic punishment that everyone who asks seems to be looking for to be effective. Master Mike's precious 22 Jul 08, 1:51 AM Kookers 6 mths  Also on this note, I used to act up a lot in past relationships and it was actually my Domme's refusal to respond that helped me to stop the behavior. You see, I am a masochist and I was using misbehavior as a way to get physical punishment without having to ask for it. Well, my Domme was not stupid and saw right through it, even before I did, and was not about to be pushed into such a situation. Quite frankly I was rather impressed and in the long run grateful to her for her inaction. It straightened me out more than public punishment ever could have. It taught me that this was not about when I wanted to play, it was about her, and besides that it taught me that all I needed to do was ask, not act up and embarrass myself. "Submission is a gift earned through trust. Dominance is a responsibility that may hurt, but never harms that gift." 22 Jul 08, 8:40 AM Ms_Valentine UK, 6 mths  Master_Fusion wrote: Public Punishments I am interested in finding out what you do to your sub/slave when she has been bad and you need to punish her in public? Instant chastisement in public may work for puppies and children but for mature adults transgressions outside the home can be dealt with at an appropriate time when back at the house.A quiet word is enough for any sub of mine to know they are in trouble and will be punished later at Mistress' leisure and with a full range of punishments open to her. Instant punitive reaction to public misbehaviour makes me feel as though the Dom has been manipulated by the sub/slaves bad behaviour. Worse, what if that was what the 'naughty' sub/slave wanted. Some s-types do crave public punishment and no way would they get it from me because of poor conduct. Reverse psychology would be employed there. The worst punishment for one begging for it is to ignore them or send them home alone or to sit in the car away from you. 'Bratting' would get nowhere with me. In public, depending upon the punishment, the situation can end up involving non-consenting people at very least and the police called at worst. All this is only my opinion and I am sure others would fling the girl over the car bonnet and spank her there and then with no regard for anyone who may be watching. 25 Jul 08, 3:09 PM ColdHarbour UK, 12 mths  Master_Fusion wrote: I am interested in finding out what you do to your sub/slave when she has been bad and you need to punish her in public? For the most part I agree with all that has been said here. If a slave of mine misbehaved in the supermarket, would I bend her over the nearest freezer-chest and spank her bare arse for all to see and hear? No! Knowing how uncomfortable I feel seeing kids spanked by their parents, no way would I lower myself to imposing such a distasteful exhibition on innocent bystanders. I would rather have my own bare arse publicly spanked! A look and a few quiet but well chosen words really are all that's required. To a slave who is truly a slave in their heart, just knowing you are displeased and/or disappointed in them is the worst punishment imaginable! However, let us not throw the baby out with the bathwater! Personally, I have found public punishment very useful and would not hesitate to employ it again where appropriate. It's that control thing yet again! Reactive, on-the-spot public punishment is about losing control and that's bad! The imposition of carefully considered, safe yet effective public punishment, on the other hand, is about keeping control and using it, not to exact retribution, but to actually solve the problem by modifying the slave's thought processes and consequent behaviour. Surely that's a good thing! What I am saying is that it really all depends on the slave, the offence, and how they/You define public punishment. Moreover, where does it say that public punishment is appropriate only for public misdeeds? Surely all that matters is that it be effective and can be undertaken safely and legally without unduly offending the likely 'witnesses' to the slave's punishment. For example, I once had one so painfully shy she refused even to undress unless we were alone together with the blinds drawn. Even after agreeing she needed to get over her shyness, she would just freeze (and/or panic) even if the only others present were my then harem happily undressing in front of her. her punishment? I was actually in the pub waiting for them all to join me, so I've only heard the story but, near as I can gather, the girls tickled her into hysterics, somehow managed to trade her clothes for theirs and all-but frog-marched her, still giggling, over to the pub to teach her how to play darts and beat me at pool — as in wearing not much more than was necessary to avoid charges of 'outraging public decency'. Okay, she couldn't help but 'flash' a good deal but that was her punishment — to present herself in public, looking drop-dead gorgeous, getting more praise & petting than she'd had in her entire former life, and to spend a really fun evening 'out with the girls'. And it worked! After that, it was as much as I could do to get her to keep her clothes on when they needed to be! What I am saying is that I really don't see 'public punishment' as necessarily bad. It's just a question of how you define 'public' and 'punishment'. It is what you do, how you do it and why that makes it 'good' or 'bad' in any given instance, but surely that applies to just about everything we do with slaves. If you want classic 'public punishment', why not just throw a 'punishment party' and invite people who like to watch a good show? It doesn't have to be a street party to have the desired effect on the slave. You cannot run away from what is inside you — African proverb Edited 25 Jul 08, 3:27 PM by ColdHarbour 26 Jul 08, 11:15 AM pirate528x US, 3 yrs  Train her well enough so that a "look" will stop her in her tracks.That way you won't lose your cool and make her ponder over what the punishment will be.It also gives you a chance to mull over how she'll be punished. MT 27 Jul 08, 7:04 PM moncherie US(CA), 4 mths  All Master has to dois to point to the floor and i am on my knees. He doesn't care where it is. A movie theater, the grocery store, my sister's house, they all know. i have a desperate need to be controlled and Master sees to it that i am compliant. When we get home i am often punished with punishments ranging from standing in the corner blindfolded or being made to sit on the toilet for hours. If i have spoken in public without permission Master will gag me for a day. Coming home late twice in one week gets TV, my cell phone, computer time, reading and any other hobbies revoked for an entire weekend. 27 Jul 08, 11:19 PM 315-076-759 UK, 5 mths  Just simply KNOWING Slave has earned Lady Mistress' disapproval is enough. In that situation Slave feels he has failed and is unworthy. To the outside world that may seem paradoxical but to a consenting slave, serving and pleasing its owner is the very purpose for [the slave's] existence. Actual physical punishement may well have the reverse effect on a willing submissive if they enjoy being treated that way apart from sending quite the wrong messages to an uninformed public. Slave/Sklavos