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	SD! : Web boards : Sex & Fetishes : "Perm stretched hole" 1 2 3 Perm stretched hole (28) 5 Nov 08, 4:38 PM Dreamn8r US(OR), 2 yrs I do hope you enjoy cleaning up shit when the slave becomes incontinent 5 Nov 08, 4:39 PM Dreamn8r US(OR), 2 yrs Glad there is another voice of reason out there 5 Nov 08, 4:41 PM Dreamn8r US(OR), 2 yrs And My not so humbled opinion was well. I couldn't have said it better 616-763-198 wrote: i sympathize with the sub mentioned above who has had her anal splinter permanently dilated to the point she is incontinent. Thoughtful Masters would not subject their slaves to this point of embarrassment/expense. Colon cancer patients have to tolerate this because of an insidious disease, slaves should not be assaulted to the point of lack of physical control of bowel movements. This is my humbled opinion. slave andrea 5 Nov 08, 5:59 PM slavegail UK, 3 yrs Y! written with permission of NG1. my Master uses me often anally and Mistress with her strap-ons. i also sometimes have anal plugs in all day. but never to the extent that i am streached so wide.small/med often is my Owners motto, to overstreach for long periods is just asking for trouble. slavegail Property of NG1 22 Nov 08, 6:44 PM 740-245-140 CA, 6 mths Y! 996-150-083 wrote: 740-245-140 wrote: i am made to wear my plug all day , although it is small enough to wear comfortablly and not do any damage , i have had enough training now to except some very larg items without very little warm up and have not had any problems if you are to wear it 24-7 i recomend a stainless pc Is it not uncomfortable to wear a stainless steel plug all day? While I like the hygiene benefits of stainless steel, I am reluctant to ask Mistress Tamara to swap my silicone plug for a stainless plug because of the rigidity of the stainless plug. Would you recommend a smaller stainless steel plug than the medium to large silicone plugs that I am currently required to wear when I leave the house? yes , start out with a small one , my daily one is small , its commfy and wont do any damage , you will no if its not good for you as you wear it this slave is owned by Mistress Nicole 22 Nov 08, 7:09 PM 119-812-164 US, 2 mths Y! 740-245-140 wrote: 996-150-083 wrote: 740-245-140 wrote: i am made to wear my plug all day , although it is small enough to wear comfortablly and not do any damage , i have had enough training now to except some very larg items without very little warm up and have not had any problems if you are to wear it 24-7 i recomend a stainless pc Is it not uncomfortable to wear a stainless steel plug all day? While I like the hygiene benefits of stainless steel, I am reluctant to ask Mistress Tamara to swap my silicone plug for a stainless plug because of the rigidity of the stainless plug. Would you recommend a smaller stainless steel plug than the medium to large silicone plugs that I am currently required to wear when I leave the house? yes , start out with a small one , my daily one is small , its commfy and wont do any damage , you will no if its not good for you as you wear it i find stainless steel plugs comfortable too. there is a heft to them to which you need to adjust. the one i use most often is ornamental, with a ruby red swarovski crystal jeweled flat end visible when the cheeks are spread. these particular plugs i find unfortunately small at their largest size for any sort of play as even the largest will slip fully into my ass with some strong movement, though i wouldn't consider myself terribly stretched at all, just well used. i want to add to the discussion about the sphincter being stretched to a point of incontinence- i respect the spirit of debate, but it seems as if we are debating the matter of whether trees exist. to say i have worn a butt plug, been used, been over-used, etc. and have no problem with incontinence and so incontinence never happens from anal usage is tantamount to the misunderstanding that the world was flat because one had never experienced anything outside their own terra firma. this is the first lesson we learn. children laugh at the idea that grown ups once thought the world was flat because they'd never traveled that far -- i have had chicken pox but not measles. i still know measles exist ... there is plenty of medical research that supports the assertion that a sphincter can be damaged beyond the limits to its elasticity. it is simply a fact. if it has not happened to you, that is wonderful, and hopefully you will continue to have a resilient anus. we are each put together a bit differently and where one may have some physical, genetic, vigor, another may not-- thankfully, which means not everyone gets cancer, not everyone is prone to breaking bones, not everyone can eat peanuts. yes? smiles, girl The happiness of a man in this life does not consist in the absence but in the mastery of his passions.-- Alfred Lord Tennyson (1809 - 1892) Edited 22 Nov 08, 7:11 PM by 119-812-164 23 Nov 08, 1:22 AM 996-150-083 AU, 13 mths 740-245-140 wrote: 996-150-083 wrote: 740-245-140 wrote: i am made to wear my plug all day , although it is small enough to wear comfortablly and not do any damage , i have had enough training now to except some very larg items without very little warm up and have not had any problems if you are to wear it 24-7 i recomend a stainless pc Is it not uncomfortable to wear a stainless steel plug all day? While I like the hygiene benefits of stainless steel, I am reluctant to ask Mistress Tamara to swap my silicone plug for a stainless plug because of the rigidity of the stainless plug. Would you recommend a smaller stainless steel plug than the medium to large silicone plugs that I am currently required to wear when I leave the house? yes , start out with a small one , my daily one is small , its commfy and wont do any damage , you will no if its not good for you as you wear it I have today been fitted with a medium-sized steel plug by Mistress Tamara. I am currently very conscious of the weight of the plug and it makes me sit up very straight. Fortunately, my leather harness is quite sturdy and so far the plug feels secure. Fortunately, today I am staying home to get used to the plug. From tomorrow I will be required to wear the steel plug whenever I leave the house. Spanked Slave 996-150-083 25 Nov 08, 10:35 AM Ms_Valentine 8 mths Being permanently health compromised with induced anal incontinence still makes me shudder. I sent my sub off today for his bi-annual health checks for private medical insurance provided by his employers. I was just imagining what it would have been like for him to turn up so damaged that he needed to wear a plug whilst being examined or he would shit all over the doctor. What on earth would the Doctor think. I am sure a GP would then ask questions about the mental health of a person who allowed themselves to be harmed in that way. I am still horrified by this and see no difference between that and any other permanent harm done to a sub/slave. It takes no account of any potential future life needs and situations. Controversial views of Ms_Valentine. No 1. Slaves submit no more deeply than subs can do. No 2. Terms such as a 'sub' or a 'slave' describe a state of being, not a level of submission, importance or place in a hierarchy. 3. Submission?.. no limits necessary.