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	SD! : Web boards : Submission : "some assistance?" 1 2 3 some assistance? (29) Thu 14 Aug 08, 2:37 PM 779-061-353 US(NY), 9 mths Y! Recently (in the last month) i have become a 24/7 to my Master in His home. My Master does have a wife and child, and i have three of my own. W/we have had a couple things pop up that i would like some advice/suggestions on please. First is, His wife knew when He said i was comming that i cannot funtion in any manner with a female (Master belives i've had some kind of trama in my past involving a female bad enough to shut me down). Yet from appearances it seems she has assumed that i would be for both of them when she was told i would only be for my Master. She is quite upset. In with that knowing i have issues being 'involved' with other females, Master asked me (because his wwife requested it) if i would have an issue sleeping in the same bed with both of them because he would want us both sleping beside Him. i told Him it would be fine as long as He were between us then i would not feel like i were sleeping with His wife. 2 weeks ago His wife took herself out of the bed room 'supposedly' because the room is too cold. Now she's been telling Him she is going to 'take back' HER bed. now i have mentioned to my Master i would gladly sleep with my girls if there was an issue, He told me no; so any advice on diffuseing that one? Next issue is, His wife thinks because i will not (neither will He demand it) kneel and beg when the children are present. Or that i will not crawl around on all 4, or anything else that is for 'adults only' when kids are present that i am not truely His sub.. and will have a fight with Him and me because of it. She seems to belive that the Master/slave life is like it is depicted on tv or in the Second Life online world and refuses to belive otherwise. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to change her mind? written kneeling at His feet, leash frimly in place Come check out this girl's writings http://www.freewebs.com/bardic/ Master Silver Wolf approves all this grl's posts they MUST pass his approval before posting 14 Aug 08, 8:23 PM Mistress_Tiara UK, 2 yrs It seems that your Master has initiated a situation he has not put anywhere near thorough enough preparation into. Whether this issue gets resolved is really up to him at this stage. Whether you continue to tolerate this situation is however also up to you. It was up to him to make sure your his wife was in full agreement - an for this to work her agreement is absolutely necessary whatever you may wish - to the situation and fully understood how it would work. A conversation between him and her about how you proceed from now on is essential, as is an agreement they are both content with. The fact there are children involved in this situation makes a level headed, mutually respectful approach to resolution essential immediately. You cannot afford to enter into further lengthy resolution procedures. As for suggesting you crawl in front of your or her children this is absolutely unacceptable behaviour. I wonder if she is speaking out of resentment that another woman has been brought into her home against her wishes and she is attempting to make you so uncomfortable you leave - and if she is, this may not be a bad decision on your part - you cannot afford to leave your children in an environment where they may be resented, and where boundaries of appropriate behaviour are not respected. The realities of living in a poly household with two sets of children would be tricky enough if everyone wanted it and was pulling in the same direction. The realities of attempting to navigate this in a household where there is confused understanding about Ownership, spousal resentment, problematic sleeping arrangements, suggestions of inappropriate conduct around children and a badly planned arrangement with possible coercement of a spouse to tolerate the situation sounds like a nightmare. Whether it is a nightmare that is intolerable to you is something you would be well advised to assess quickly. *~*Mistress Tiara*~* Edited 14 Aug 08, 9:16 PM by Mistress_Tiara 14 Aug 08, 8:27 PM meriaton US(MN), 3 yrs This is something that smacks harshly of jealousy to me. His wife seems incredibly jealous of you and your relationship with Him, and i'm not really sure if you're the one who is going to have to step up. i would think that He and she have a lot of talking left to do, and it will have to be she who grows a bit more. Unfortunately, i'm not positive that she is going to really want it to work for you and your Master - and since all she's going off is what she's seen on television and SL, she really doesn't understand the nuances...and unless she does some research, reads, tries to open her mind and heart to the realities, then she's not ever going to truly understand. i'm sorry, i wish i could offer more in the way of advice than just "He's going to have to sit down and speak with her, and you, preferably together so that everyone's on the same page here." *hugs if you want/need them* "But Master, the pizzas were always on the ceiling!" 15 Aug 08, 11:10 AM 779-061-353 US(NY), 9 mths Y! thank you both for your responses, i do appriciate them. Master Silver Wolf has spoken to His wife about this often.... infront of me and privately, however its seems it is like talking to a brick wall. As for with the kids, Master Silver Wolf *will not* make me act inappropriate infront of them W/we both agree on that. So thats not an issue no matter what His wife will say. i would like to know if anyone has had to deal with someone like His wife and how best to handle this touchy suituation. Also i will state His wife did agree to me comeing and *knew* i do not do certain things.... however it is how she precives things,His wife refuses to belive anything that comes out of His mouth about anything; but then if finds someone later who says the same thing will come back and say.. 'oh i *guess* you were right' in a semi sarcastic tone.. so not sure how it will work out. On another note (forgot this one) Master Silver Wolf's wife belives in fighting first in any situation... and from this girl's perspective thinks that if you fight *badly* multiple times a day that 'you love me'. Before people jump up and comment that they think she might wish to be owned by Master Silver.. she has stated numerous times 'NO MAN WILL CONTROL ME' in a dead (know what i mean) flat tone. (sorry forgot that last little detail and thought it might be important) written kneeling at His feet, leash frimly in place Come check out this girl's writings http://www.freewebs.com/bardic/ Master Silver Wolf approves all this grl's posts they MUST pass his approval before posting Edited 15 Aug 08, 12:18 PM by 779-061-353 15 Aug 08, 12:20 PM Master5 US, 5 mths just obey your Master 15 Aug 08, 12:40 PM 779-061-353 US(NY), 9 mths Y! Master5 wrote: just obey your Master pardon this but... duh.. this i know and if you did not notice.... i stated my Master has given me permisson to post what i post.. and He has seen this thread and approved it because He'd like the advice as well....... soooooo that 4 letter statement has no real worth atm to me (sorry i had to make a reply to this) written kneeling at His feet, leash frimly in place Come check out this girl's writings http://www.freewebs.com/bardic/ Master Silver Wolf approves all this grl's posts they MUST pass his approval before posting 15 Aug 08, 1:06 PM Silver_Wolf US(NY), 9 mths Y! Hello to all, I am not a person to do many post's though I do read them. First i do love my slave and intend to keep her with me as all of the problems are worked out, she is working very hard to learn and fit in I have no complantes on or about her *grins* except possibly she trys to hard to be good. Yes there are problems as expected though more extream than were expected with my wife who i have found out in the last few years is lez and does not care for or trust men so it is a interesting problem. Any ideas? 15 Aug 08, 9:44 PM Mistress_Tiara UK, 2 yrs If your marriage is over, end it. If it's not fix it, which will involve respecting your wifes wishes regarding your slave. If your wife does not want another woman in her home or her bed that is her right and eminently reasonable. If you dont care about her wishes or feel unwilling to continue your marriage you shouldnt stay with her, but sort this out properly. This current situation is clearly not ok though, and suggesting that all the problems are now resolved seems naive. Good luck to all of you. Especially your slave and wife. *~*Mistress Tiara*~* 16 Aug 08, 12:17 AM subsfaith UK, 3 yrs Silver_Wolf wrote: Any ideas? Yeah sure.... stop being selfish, thinking about yourselves and consider your children. There at least three children, I gather from your posts) that are witnessing this fucked up relationship. The mummy has come out as a confused lesbian, yet is still sharing the bed with daddy. Even when daddy moves in another mummy and her children. There is jealousy, confusion, tension, accrimony, passive-aggressive behaviour, and a whole lot more. Just what is this doing to both of your children? What are they learning? Oh yeah, they are being taught how to act like this too. Well done! So for me the idea would be put your kids before yourselves, make a decision, put your kids before yourselves, execute decision, put your kids before yourselves, stick to your decision, and still put your kids before yourselves. While my words are strong, this is not supposed to come across as a personal attack. It is intended to be an objective voice of logic based on only the information you have both given. I wish you all well, faith 16 Aug 08, 1:46 AM little_linnet US, 3 yrs Well said Tiara. Your wife is not your slave, which means she's entitled to the right to be heard, among other rights. Integrity requires that you treat her accordingly. Make up your mind, either have your wife or have your cake, but you're going to have to be a big boy and make some decisions and change the way your life has been running. Krista I may be a blowzy, slovenly slattern, but how can you be drab when you've used a bedazzler to make rainbows all over your blue jeans? (For the record, this makes them more gay, but possibly less feminist.) 16 Aug 08, 11:33 AM MasterJC 5 mths Can understand the situation I'm in a gay marriage but have a male slave as well... My spouse understands most of the time that I enjoy the Master/slave relationship ( and that he enjoy's having a clean bathroom He blows up on ocassion about this but usually at times when he is feeling threatened or fearful I will drop him... After spending some time listening, I usually drag out of him, these deeper feelings, doesn't usually talk about these If your wife is threatened, she needs to feel heard by you, if she is fustrated no having her own female slave, GET HER ONE!!! Afterall, fair is fair!! Whether the marriage is 'over' is for the two of you to decide... My slave also serves my spouse on ocassion...so my situation is different... cheers though... MasterJC Next page