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	SD! : Web boards : Submission : "some assistance?" 1 2 3 some assistance? (29) 16 Aug 08, 3:19 PM obielax US(OH), 9 mths Y! MasterJC wrote: Can understand the situation I'm in a gay marriage but have a male slave as well... My spouse understands most of the time that I enjoy the Master/slave relationship ( and that he enjoy's having a clean bathroom He blows up on ocassion about this but usually at times when he is feeling threatened or fearful I will drop him... After spending some time listening, I usually drag out of him, these deeper feelings, doesn't usually talk about these If your wife is threatened, she needs to feel heard by you, if she is fustrated no having her own female slave, GET HER ONE!!! Afterall, fair is fair!! Whether the marriage is 'over' is for the two of you to decide... My slave also serves my spouse on ocassion...so my situation is different... cheers though... MasterJC Well said! Say what you mean, mean what you say. 19 Aug 08, 8:27 PM 779-061-353 US(NY), 9 mths Y! Subsfaith (pardon if i misspelled it) Master Silver Wolf knew his wife was bi when he married her, however since then... from what i have heard on both sides she is lesbian, not bi.. As for the children i personally try to keep them out of any arguments involving the adults, from what i have seen and heard however His wife slept seperate sometimes from Master Silver, and those times their son always wound up sleeping with her (at 9 i belive thats odd). As for my children... they see the 'other mommie' is unfair in punishing, her son gets out of any trouble if he throws a fit and when mine do she punishes them rougher or yells louder at them. i was asking for aid in how i could aid in making things easier for all. MasterJC.... as for your post , ty but from what it 'seems' she wants to be sub to a female... she does not want a slave, however her personality is that of a Domme. written kneeling at His feet, leash frimly in place Come check out this girl's writings http://www.freewebs.com/bardic/ Master Silver Wolf approves all this grl's posts they MUST pass his approval before posting 19 Aug 08, 10:00 PM Mistress_Tiara UK, 2 yrs MasterJC wrote: Can understand the situation I'm in a gay marriage but have a male slave as well... My spouse understands most of the time that I enjoy the Master/slave relationship ( and that he enjoy's having a clean bathroom He blows up on ocassion about this but usually at times when he is feeling threatened or fearful I will drop him... After spending some time listening, I usually drag out of him, these deeper feelings, doesn't usually talk about these If your wife is threatened, she needs to feel heard by you, if she is fustrated no having her own female slave, GET HER ONE!!! Afterall, fair is fair!! Whether the marriage is 'over' is for the two of you to decide... My slave also serves my spouse on ocassion...so my situation is different... cheers though... MasterJC I find this post rather confusing master jc as only two days before writing it you wrote this; "I have a long distance slave...Master in Canada and the slave in Florida... I think, besides 'different strokes for different folks' There is a big difference between 'playing' cyber and committing to ongoing ownership.. my slavepupdave communicates through phone, who me/ messeger, the slave's online journal, and cam messenger. pup is very committed and this Master is growning to care for his property very much...pup is working towards earning the right to be here for two weeks in October...pup is in a cb, writes in its journal everyday,which Master set up for pup, and connects for Master's orders daily...not being able to wear a collar at work..pup is in a chain locked on pup's right ankle. There are many ways to maintain M/s relationship, and to each there own though I do agree that a messenger only cyber can be kinda tacky... cheers MasterJC..." and only two weeks before you wrote in your profile that you were "looking for a good slave to complete Master's household as 24/7". I find it quite amazing that your 'slave' manages to clean your bathroom from a different country, let alone that he serves your partner. Perhaps you could share your cross country cleaning and personal service tips with the other slaves here, who Im sure would be very interested. A cynic may think that this was yet another fantasy post, from someone with a dubious posting history. Heavens forfend. *~*Mistress Tiara*~* Edited 19 Aug 08, 10:03 PM by Mistress_Tiara 20 Aug 08, 2:32 AM 000-874-172 UK, 5 yrs Mistress_Tiara wrote: MasterJC wrote: *sn......ipped* I find it quite amazing that your 'slave' manages to clean your bathroom from a different country, let alone that he serves your partner. Perhaps you could share your cross country cleaning and personal service tips with the other slaves here, who Im sure would be very interested. A cynic may think that this was yet another fantasy post, from someone with a dubious posting history. Heavens forfend. Either I'm the cynic you refer to, MT, or I wanna know which cleaning products the slave uses. I mean, seriously; they must be fantastic if the long distance cleaning-over-time-against-cost outweighs the price of the return flights. All to do just that? Wow. An impressive slave indeed - they must have the travel itinerary down to a fine art, I suspect. I wonder if they have a good grasp on the 'slaves pantry' and make their own cleaning products; perhaps they could lock 'mjc' in said pantry and throw the frickin' key away, because this guy just gets boring... Another angle that gets me about this; what is the point of going to the extent of having such a well trained 'pup' at such a distance, when the apparent 'master' could take 'him' to the park for toilet training, if he's clearly full of 'it' himself, if ya catch My drift... Perhaps the fantasy slave would be better of saving 'it's' cash and spending it on his own cleaning products instead, and have 'mjc' clean up his own act for a change. Master's l'il one®(her Rights are Mine in reserve) 20 Aug 08, 4:41 AM Masters_LittleKitten US(TX), 22 mths First I did not see in here how long you have attempted this arrangement other than a short time. So building a ploy relationships takes a while and its is NOT easy but I am sure you knew that going into this. At the start of our M/s relationship it was ploy with his now ex-wife if that says anything about how well it worked out for us. First I disagree that you need to put the kids first... I mean you do but as far as the relationships them-selfs go they need be no part of it..(Before I get my head chewed off I do feel the kids are important and should come first in almost any other situation but the happiness with ones partner is not one of them because they will grow up and out of the house and you will still be with the person you where unhappy with for so many years.) Your relationship with your wife is important and it will be confusing for your children no matter what happens. What you need to answer is do you still want to be with your wife and does your wife want to be with you (both answers are equally important)? If the answer is no then its time to move forward and out from that relationship for everyone involved. This might hurt your wife it will confuse your son .. But I doubt he is not already confused at this point anyhow. If you both still wish to be together then take a step back write a contract for your slave make sure its detailed. Go over it with both of them.. See if there is something that can be done to help the kids understand what is going on.. Maybe have the primary mother take care of the discipline for there children ( this would still allow you to do as you see fit with all the children but until emotions are settled it would not make the kids feel resentment to the other “new parent”) but the kids are a different issue it will take time for them to get used to this and may resent the other parent or parents for some time this is just part of being a stepparent for the most part. I have a lot to say here really but as I see it that is the first thing you need to sort out. *stops her babbling and goes back to reading* Master's Little Kitten *Ponders thinking that it must look bad on her but shrugs and post any way* 20 Aug 08, 10:27 AM slavegail UK, 3 yrs Y! written with permission of NG1. not knowing the full story(why slave has issues with females) from what this slave can see the fantasy came before the reality. not enought taking about the problems this slave has a Mater and a Mistress but it was make very clear slave would serve both But Master and Mistress would not play togeather as Mistress is lesbian and theirs is a business relationship clear lines were drawn.the only disagreement Owners have is sometimes when they both play with slave "who gets what end first" talk people talk. slavegail Owned by NG1 slavegail Property of NG1 20 Aug 08, 1:15 PM Silver_Wolf US(NY), 9 mths Y! First I wish to thank all for the reply's.......somemore background info My wife knew all of this in advance and agreed with it and also wanted this to happen, she is a sub herself just not to me she only wants to be a sub to a Mistress so......it makes it a bit more "interesting" my slave and my wife get along as far as the kids infact the kids love it .....one thing i will not do is any thing infront of the kids as in bdsm ect. It is a learning process for all and except for the things my wife is doing is working for all 20 Aug 08, 6:37 PM 779-061-353 US(NY), 9 mths Y! slavegail wrote: written with permission of NG1. not knowing the full story(why slave has issues with females) Ok, well i didn't want to delve into my past on this board but, as to my issues..... i was damaged phys, sexually, and emotinally by family since a verrrrry young age, the memories i can recall are of ,ales and beatigns by females. However, i knew for a long time i was nonfunctional with sex in any form, it would make me 'freeze' mentally and physically. Master SilverWolf has fixed that.. at least with Him anyway. i discovered that during this time period when He helped me that in any situation with a female a react in the same fasion i use to with men, example... the other morning after Master SilverWolf got up to use the bathroom, His wife 'scooted' closed to me, i was sooo scared and terrified if she got closer to me i would have jumped through the wall behind me. AS for why this may/not be important is His wife belives that being subor slave means its all sex and punishment written kneeling at His feet, leash frimly in place Come check out this girl's writings http://www.freewebs.com/bardic/ Master Silver Wolf approves all this grl's posts they MUST pass his approval before posting 21 Aug 08, 9:36 PM Mistress_Tiara UK, 2 yrs Masters_LittleKitten wrote: I disagree that you need to put the kids first... I mean you do but as far as the relationships them-selfs go they need be no part of it..(Before I get my head chewed off I do feel the kids are important and should come first in almost any other situation but the happiness with ones partner is not one of them because they will grow up and out of the house and you will still be with the person you where unhappy with for so many years.) Your relationship with your wife is important and it will be confusing for your children no matter what happens. But kids will be affected by disruptive adult relationships, however much the adults may attempt to keep their lives private. It is extremely naive to think that having a third person with whom there is animosity and disruptive power play and disagreements move into the relationship of a childs parents will result in nothing more than confusion. Kids pick up on ill feeling and resentment if nothing else. As for the idea that because children will grow up and leave, their happiness and wellbeing should be put behind the happiness of the adults because 'they will still be there even when the kids have grown up' I find that a troubling idea. When people choose to bring children into the world they have a duty to protect them, care for them, and put them first, even if it means compromising their own happiness for a few years. No one is forced to have kids, but if you elect to, you have a duty to do your best for them from that moment on. If that means not being able to have the slave you want, or a poly relationship until they are bigger and independent, so be it. If people want the option to do whatever the hell they like, with whoever the hell they like, whenever the hell they like, they are probably best not becoming parents. That way everyone gets what they want without feeling repressed or risking other peoples wellbeing. Im not suggesting that having children should preclude an M/s relationship by any means - I do however think that if what we want or how we conduct ourselves is at any point detrimental to our kids we should modify our behaviour for the kids wellbeing. Also please note this is not a specific comment on the OP's situation, rather a response to the comment quoted. *~*Mistress Tiara*~* Edited 21 Aug 08, 11:40 PM by Mistress_Tiara 21 Aug 08, 9:54 PM little_linnet US, 3 yrs Masters_LittleKitten wrote: I do feel the kids are important and should come first in almost any other situation but the happiness with ones partner is not one of them Mm. Except it sounds like no one in the OP's situation is happy with their "partner". And as Tiara says, that is never good for the kids. Krista I may be a blowzy, slovenly slattern, but how can you be drab when you've used a bedazzler to make rainbows all over your blue jeans? (For the record, this makes them more gay, but possibly less feminist.) 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