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	SD! : Web boards : Submission : "some assistance?" 1 2 3 some assistance? (29) 30 Aug 08, 1:37 AM 779-061-353 US(NY), 9 mths Y! i would like to give a little update if anyone wishes to hear it. My Master's wife spent a week 'getting some private help' due to some 'issues' she had. She during that time informed Master that she cannot stand clutter and that was her problem because the house is cluttered, (i don't think thats the true problem). Btw... the kids NEVER see anything that goes on with the adults we try our best to keep it away from them. Granted 2 days ago there was a major fight infront of 2 of the kids, their son and my youngest. Again an argument over My Master's disapline of his child, because Master's wife thinks he is to harsh on their son. It got to the point where Master's wife grabbed me by the head (think she wanted me to hit her looking back) with my child crying and cowering behind me, i told her in a verrrry clam and 'dead' voice to let go, she did and it spiraled for a little from there but after that moment i managed to get my child out my Master standing between his wife and my child (for my benifit). After i unfortunatly let my mouth open and spill about what i thought of her at that moment Master tryied to fix the problem. His wife refused to listen and finally got up and went to bed. Master then took me and sat me down to calm me a few hours into that His wife came back by us and we talked for 3-4 hours calmly about the problems. i think i nailed the problem on the head, when i told them both that in my opinon nothing during our 'discussions' get solved because when they argye back and forth i go silent, His wife will sit there head down (she is no sub/slave) twiddleing her tumbs eyes shut rocking (imo not listening) and Master will rattle on... so i know THAT needs fixing... anyone got any suggestions???? pls?????? i and my Master for sure want all this to work. *pardon the going on and on and on.. and any spelling errors, i'm very tired tonight* written kneeling at His feet, leash frimly in place Come check out this girl's writings http://www.freewebs.com/bardic/ Master Silver Wolf approves all this grl's posts they MUST pass his approval before posting Edited 30 Aug 08, 2:20 AM by 779-061-353 30 Aug 08, 7:18 AM Camille US(CA), 5 mths I think more than any other thing you need to remove your children from the situation. It's not a healthy one and they can't do it for themselves. Camille 30 Aug 08, 11:55 AM Mistress_Tiara UK, 2 yrs 779-061-353 wrote: anyone got any suggestions???? pls?????? Only ones you dont want to hear. Leave. This situation is unhealthy, and I cannot see it ending happily. How can it? It doesnt sound like any of you are actually trying to resolve the situation, just bring about whatever you each individually want, which is very simply for you all not to be together. You say for example, 779-061-353 wrote: i think i nailed the problem on the head, when i told them both that in my opinon nothing during our 'discussions' get solved because when they argye back and forth i go silent, His wife will sit there head down (she is no sub/slave) twiddleing her tumbs eyes shut rocking (imo not listening) and Master will rattle on And how exactly is that going to change? The wife clearly doesnt want this situation, so what do you think will alter that? You are simply not facing reality. You say "the kids NEVER see anything that goes on with the adults" but you entirely contradict that when you say, 779-061-353 wrote: 2 days ago there was a major fight infront of 2 of the kids, their son and my youngest. Again an argument over My Master's disapline of his child, because Master's wife thinks he is to harsh on their son. It got to the point where Master's wife grabbed me by the head (think she wanted me to hit her looking back) with my child crying and cowering behind me, i told her in a verrrry clam and 'dead' voice to let go, she did and it spiraled for a little from there but after that moment i managed to get my child out my Master standing between his wife and my child (for my benifit). After i unfortunatly let my mouth open and spill about what i thought of her at that moment These kids are seeing physical & verbal violence between the three adults who are supposed to be guiding them & protecting them. This is happening because you & your Master have decided you want a relationship despite the negative effects it is having on those around you. Its affecting the kids & his wife badly, and it must be affecting you too. If you wanted to live like this and it was only affecting you that owuld be your right, but you all really need to think about your childrens wellbeing now. *~*Mistress Tiara*~* Edited 30 Aug 08, 12:13 PM by Mistress_Tiara 30 Aug 08, 1:12 PM 000-874-172 UK, 5 yrs I'm with Mistress_Tiara on this one; put simply, something has to change, and fast, in the best interests of the children. How can you possibly suppose the children are going to grow into healthy adults when the very people around them, who are supposed to be their mentors (at the very least) are behaving like children; I quite honestly believe the kids are more grown up, mentally in any case in the way you've put your post across. Time for home-truth and reality to bite; shape up and move on. This situation will not work for any of you. I can speak from experience in some respects to this, because I walked away from My OWN kids, not because I don't love them (I love every one of them, and miss them every goddamn day), but because the situation I was a part of was unhealthy and not able to be fixed with Me in it . One day, some people will stop being so goddamn selfish and put someone else first for a change, and it doesn't involve staring at a table, blanking others out or coming to a forum for advice; it involves real, simple, hard-thought (and fought) positive (borne out of negative sometimes, ya know) action. Now, time to get a grip, and do something about it. Daddy's phay®(her Rights are Mine in reserve) 30 Aug 08, 8:25 PM little_linnet US, 3 yrs Honey, you have to grow up and face the fact that wanting your own personal happy ending to this is not going to make it happen. This man is not going to leave his wife for you; he's too entangled in whatever crap they have going on between the two of them. His wife may leave, if she's had enough of him and of her resentment over you; at which point you'll be left with a guy who never once exercised actual relationship skills in his prior relationship and won't exercise them with you, either. Doesn't sound like a recipe for success to me. And the three of you are certainly not going to be happy together. Not until Hell freezes over. What are you waiting for? What kind of outcome do you think there could possibly be to this that would be positive enough to justify exposing yourself, your kids and their kids to this environment of hostility, resentment and insecurity? Krista The thing you have to remember about girls is that the hyperfluid bearings under the camshafts can be miscalibrated along either axis, so regular maintanence is required to keep resonance in the titanium casing from causing abrasions against the primary sprocket joists. 31 Aug 08, 2:21 AM 187-345-823 5 mths Get out of this relationship. I used to handle divorce cases, and trust me, you don't want to get involved in a situation like this. Your Master should understand that his problems with his wife are too much for you and your children to bear. Don't harm yourself or your children by staying. 18 Sep 08, 8:55 PM Morniel US, 7 mths First of all, don't denigrate her problem with clutter -- visual clutter CAN upset people, and can disrupt everything from their moods to their behaviour. Second, while the "master/husband/guy" in question may have thought he discussed things with both women, and covered all bases, it's obvious that this isn't the case, and that each woman had different perceptions, which were in turn different from the man's as well. Third... I've tried to think of some nice way to say this one, but I honestly can't, as either a healthcare professional or a parent, or a slave-wife.... You people are selfish, thoughtless, and downright abusive to the children of both families who have been dragged into this appalling "experiment". When you have children, either as a mother or as a father, your life focus must shift to those children, and their physical, emotional, mental, and spiritual welfare. If you think otherwise, you are wrong, and you need to get your acts and your priorities straightened out. Those children are completely dependant on you as parents. They depend on you for their physical wellbeing -- food, shelter, clothing. They depend on you for their emotional security. They depend on you for their schooling. They depend on you for their socialisation too -- that is to say, How to act, What's acceptable, How do people interact. Until you can straighten out the dynamic among the three adults, those children don't have a chance. Guilt tripping you? No -- hoping to wake you up. As for the original wife and her possible jealousy? Stop being selfish and think about things from her apparent perspective. She thought she had a home, an environment in which to raise her children, and some security. She possibly misunderstood the addition of the second woman and her children, and has now discovered it wasn't what she thought. She possibly feels threatened, and feels that the welfare of her children is threatened. (Obvious example? The clutter -- and how much harder that makes it to keep a home sanitary let alone clean.) Of course she's lashing out in possibly unacceptable ways. And it's a very real possibility that she is trying to make the second woman feel so terribly uncomfortable that she takes her children and leaves. And in case it escaped everyone's attention, the wife was there first, and she is apparently neither submissive nor slave nor interested in being anything but what she is, and that is her choice. As for the second woman, this is the risk you take when you think you want a polyandrous or polygamous relationship and sexual dynamic. But it's not about you, or your "slavery" or your "master". It's about your children. They're your responsibility, not your sex partner's, and not his wife's -- yours. (And possibly their other biological parent if he is living and if it's known who he is.) The three of you may need to sit down and discuss this, and may need to decide if it's an actual relationship or if it's a sex and play relationship. Either way, now is not the time for the blended household, because the consequences to the underage children in the household can be extremely damaging. The three adults need to grow up, separate the households again, and go back to the talking stage first. Can you all three be happy whilst the children are young and still need nurturing? Of course you can. But what you can't do, is be selfish and think only of your own needs. Don't fall into the "If I am not happy, I can't take care of my family, and I need this to be happy!" because it's simply not the way the world works. Be happy about what you have now, and can reach -- be happy about what you are working toward and will reach someday -- be happy about what has gone before because your life experiences contribute to who you are -- But stop being so selfish. All three adults are at fault -- not the slave alone, not the master alone, and not the wife alone, but all three of you. Wake up. Grow up. Be compassionate with each other. Learn to love each other. Or, Wake up, grow up, be compassionate, and care enough about everyone involved, to admit that this won't work, just yet. Harsh? You bet. Flame? Not a chance. Concern for the three of you and your children? Most assuredly. So even if my response makes you angry, read it again, and read the other responses to your post, too -- because even in a response you don't like, there may be ideas or points that can help you resolve things. Morniel's Special Place 19 Sep 08, 5:38 PM meriaton US(MN), 3 yrs Morniel wrote: First of all, don't denigrate her problem with clutter -- visual clutter CAN upset people, and can disrupt everything from their moods to their behaviour. Second, while the "master/husband/guy" in question may have thought he discussed things with both women, and covered all bases, it's obvious that this isn't the case, and that each woman had different perceptions, which were in turn different from the man's as well. Third... I've tried to think of some nice way to say this one, but I honestly can't, as either a healthcare professional or a parent, or a slave-wife.... You people are selfish, thoughtless, and downright abusive to the children of both families who have been dragged into this appalling "experiment". When you have children, either as a mother or as a father, your life focus must shift to those children, and their physical, emotional, mental, and spiritual welfare. If you think otherwise, you are wrong, and you need to get your acts and your priorities straightened out. Those children are completely dependant on you as parents. They depend on you for their physical wellbeing -- food, shelter, clothing. They depend on you for their emotional security. They depend on you for their schooling. They depend on you for their socialisation too -- that is to say, How to act, What's acceptable, How do people interact. Until you can straighten out the dynamic among the three adults, those children don't have a chance. Guilt tripping you? No -- hoping to wake you up. As for the original wife and her possible jealousy? Stop being selfish and think about things from her apparent perspective. She thought she had a home, an environment in which to raise her children, and some security. She possibly misunderstood the addition of the second woman and her children, and has now discovered it wasn't what she thought. She possibly feels threatened, and feels that the welfare of her children is threatened. (Obvious example? The clutter -- and how much harder that makes it to keep a home sanitary let alone clean.) Of course she's lashing out in possibly unacceptable ways. And it's a very real possibility that she is trying to make the second woman feel so terribly uncomfortable that she takes her children and leaves. And in case it escaped everyone's attention, the wife was there first, and she is apparently neither submissive nor slave nor interested in being anything but what she is, and that is her choice. As for the second woman, this is the risk you take when you think you want a polyandrous or polygamous relationship and sexual dynamic. But it's not about you, or your "slavery" or your "master". It's about your children. They're your responsibility, not your sex partner's, and not his wife's -- yours. (And possibly their other biological parent if he is living and if it's known who he is.) The three of you may need to sit down and discuss this, and may need to decide if it's an actual relationship or if it's a sex and play relationship. Either way, now is not the time for the blended household, because the consequences to the underage children in the household can be extremely damaging. The three adults need to grow up, separate the households again, and go back to the talking stage first. Can you all three be happy whilst the children are young and still need nurturing? Of course you can. But what you can't do, is be selfish and think only of your own needs. Don't fall into the "If I am not happy, I can't take care of my family, and I need this to be happy!" because it's simply not the way the world works. Be happy about what you have now, and can reach -- be happy about what you are working toward and will reach someday -- be happy about what has gone before because your life experiences contribute to who you are -- But stop being so selfish. All three adults are at fault -- not the slave alone, not the master alone, and not the wife alone, but all three of you. Wake up. Grow up. Be compassionate with each other. Learn to love each other. Or, Wake up, grow up, be compassionate, and care enough about everyone involved, to admit that this won't work, just yet. Harsh? You bet. Flame? Not a chance. Concern for the three of you and your children? Most assuredly. So even if my response makes you angry, read it again, and read the other responses to your post, too -- because even in a response you don't like, there may be ideas or points that can help you resolve things. Well put. meriaton - slave of Akhenaton http://meriaton.byethost12.com/blog/blog4.php Sometimes a sense of humor is the only sense i have! 21 Sep 08, 2:02 AM allalone47 US(OH), 3 yrs First off Your your Masters slave not his wife's You do what your owner tells you tto do adn how to do it and only what his wife saids so long as you owner desides that is what you do adn how far. Undersand as far as the kids go both hhis/hers and yours that is also up to him not her. If you savement to your Master is not working out do to friction between your owners wife and you then you mite think about being reliesed. That is of corce up to you. But it from what I have read it is unhealthy for your kids there kids and you.