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SD! : Web boards : Submission : "Acceptance of and submission to a disability"
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Acceptance of and submission to a disability (39)

9 Sep 08, 6:02 PM
MasterAlan79
AU, 4 mths
Y!*
well all i can say is just sit and think what you can do, i wish i could do more, but i dont know enough about you, but surely you have something you can still do.

you seem like such a sweet girl.

12 Sep 08, 9:01 PM
MasterAlan79
AU, 4 mths
Y!*
you still around flower?, having any luck?.
20 Sep 08, 2:18 AM
Morniel
US, 7 mths
Yup, breast cancer, and a radical bilateral mastectomy. Guess what kind of bedroom play is gone? Guess what kind of recovery goes into that? And so on.

Thank whatever gods there are, my partner did not say stupid things like "Your hair will grow back, would you rather lose your hair or your life?" or "I love you, not your breasts" or "I don't care what you look like, I love you".... all of which seem on the surface to be sympathetic, but which actually hurt as much as the knives and chemicals, because guess what, a woman's body is important to her.

I came to terms with breast cancer fairly easily; what did mess with my head was the "surgeon" who was supposed to do the reconstruction but instead butchered me. Facing up to that took a bit, and I didn't actually get over it until advances in the medical field made it possible to undo what she had done to me.

No, I still can't take birth control or HRT for menopause; no, I can't have more children if I chose to; no, we can't indulge in breast play, and no, for a long time, I could not even wear most of my clothes because the "breasts" the butcher made were on my COLLARBONE! and anything that didn't have a crew-neck showed them!

It's funny now. It wasn't then.

But in the long run, sheyit happens, and you accept what you can't do, figure out ways around it, and learn it's okay to ask for help with even daily stuff!

Then you get on with the important stuff, like havin' fun.

Morniel's Special Place

21 Sep 08, 12:00 AM
Flowerbelle
UK, 14 mths
Thank you, MasterAlan. Still working through the acceptance stage - it feels like having my face rammed repeatedly into a brick wall.

I'm just not used to accepting anything. Any pointers on how to accept anything will be gratefully received.

Surrender - submission - acceptance - these are the things i find so hard, and long for.

21 Sep 08, 2:27 AM
662-935-655
US, 2 yrs
to the OP - my late Master had a heart disease post MI, congestive heart failure and coronary artery disease as well as half of his heart being basically dead, cardiac catheterization films that i saw showed it unmoving except for a slight quiver and very enlarged - that was 2 years after in 98. i was "legally" not totally "blind" andsuffering from spinal disc derterioration disease during the 4 1/2 years i was Collared to my Master who had been my Husband for 10 years before - and remained so while i was collared to Him. This has got drastically worse in the last 10 mos. and 6 days - right now - since His death to the point i can't leave my home unless in a wheel chair or regular ambulance and for medical appts. only. i used to use exercise to help me cope but the spinal problem got so bad i can't even use an exercise bike i have that supports the spine. i had always been heavy but since i can't do any form of aerobic exercise, i've really got large - losing it since Master died because this diabetic forgets to eat now. (HE used to love to cook - and did so incredibly well) our disabilities also precluded sex for both of us, in the sense of F***ing. i'm not being prudish but my ISP is and has reprimanded me for using that word.

So how does one cope? sometimes better, sometimes i have a totally lousy day. acceptance is there sometimes and sometimes i get so frustrated i smash a dish or beat on pillows as i am able. Esp. with HIM gone as our disabilities balanced each other and i could do things for HIM that He could not do for Himself, while He did for me what i could not do myself. He took to the "Daddy' role in age playng well so that even when He was taking care of me, it really still was M/s as it was hiS way or the highway. (And that was true throughout the marriage - i gave up fighting Him aftera while, but for a long time i let fear keep me from surrender.

i also have moderate asthma - can't burn incense anymore which is a B*tch- type 2 diabetes and High Blood Pressure. Master also had COPD and emphysema - died of "Massive Bacterial, Infectious, Pneumonia" according to the autopsy. which they said HE had had for sometime but it had just got the better of Him then.

i think the herbs HE used did keep it at bay to extend His life.

to cope, well i am more of a captive now then when HE was alive and i think HE - in the after-life - probably gets off on it. i use computer contaccts to keep from being isolated here and another BDSM group, an online AA list and Loners snail-mail AA to maintain my 21 years sober and recovering from alcoholism and substitutes, i spend a lotof time on the phone with a very vanilla friend and HIS mom who is a widow of 30 plus years herself. i also have a BDSM friend who was collared and married to the same man for 29 years and who has been widowed for 3. Her and HIS mom help alot. And i real a lot of Large Print literature - some mailed to me by the talking book library, i listen to classic oldies. etc.

But i think you mean how to cope in this way of life. That for U/us was odd - W/we each were able to do things that the O/other couldn't and W/we took care of each other. Oddly my skills were in areas anything but normally considered slave-like, but it was what HE needed from me - including alternate ways of pleasuring HiM for as long as that worked.

i did alot of the full-time work of filling out forms to get the disability support for both of us and from the VA, keeping up health insurance, helping him try to keep HIS checkbook balanced, talking to doctors which stymied Him and being the social contact between Him and His mom and His family as He and His mom were so much alike there was always friction - but HE always made all final decisions in these matters. i also dealt with 4 legal matters that came up --including identity theft, HiM going small claims after a company that wrecked HIS vehicle, an unwarranted eviction for which HE had all the rent receipts, and an appearance before a commitee of our city counsel to get a handicapped parking apace.

HE liked to cook, sew, knit, crochet, work with intricate bead work Native American style - i could only do simple things with larger beads. He did alot of the cleaning which HE said He hated but did because i couldn't see to get stuff really clean - but only after HE couldn't work full time, before that He was pleased with how i cleaned, but i think He was bored and couldn't just live in the computer - although He tried-it worked out with the age-play and because, as i said, it was HIS way or the highway, no back talk or complaints accepted from me - HIS "little girl".

it was an odd way of doing it, but it was the only way. And i have come to a deep appreciation for all hE did for me as it now takes 3 agencies, government pensions, and people from the CHurch He was ordained in to do what He did for me before the pneumonia- oh yeah, and one online, delivers to the door, grocery store. In fact thurs. night i had a melt-down because everything seemed so out of control - odd to say as a submissive. i never had control as a slave, HE made the decisions- and yet i felt safe and sure HE was to be trusted always or nearly always to do the right thing.

So now i'm coping with a lot of helpfrom all sources and it is quite humbling to have to fight for it - sometimes i get very tired of the struggle, and that Was true also when HE was alive - except then it was more HIM and me against the worldly agencies/government and otherwise. Now i feel so lost and alone and not sure of my own decisions, tired of struggling with agencies, bureaucratic ones, and begging the Church for help. it's hard.

The one thing i'd say is to cope it's got to be you and Your Owner and W/whoever else is part of your Owner's household if any have GOT to remain unified in dealing with this.

Besides Raven's excellent suggestions, i'd add research - know the disability or disabilities you are facing, whether for yourself, your OWNER, another household M/member or any combination thereof. RESEARCH it - and when a doctor tells you something question it if it seems wrong, look to second opinions and naturopathic practitioners of varius types.

Also learn about and research support groups for the disability online or live in your area, find out how other F/folks - vanillas even - manage with that problem. Learn Y/your rights under the law and what government and private agencies are available to help. QUESTION AUTHORITY.

And withn terms of the lifestyle, be creative - don't let others define M/s to Y/you, find Y/your own way. Master couldn't do sex- E.D. drugs would have kllled Him with the nitrates He took for chest pain - but He still enjoyed oral pleasuring and wet-dreams took care of the rest. And in His desire to take good care of HIS possesions needs He ordered me to have a daily orgasm in HiS hearing using toys

This is one of those places where Master's saying "Commitment is more important than Love" proveds true and it's true now - having PTSD and bipolar sometimes i feel seriously in need of being commited since HIS death although i hadn't needed that sincee i had been collared. But seriously, if Y/you both/all want to make it work and are commited to making it work, then Y/you WILL find a way. i've seen it happen with other disabled F/folks. It may be frustrating because it means that Y/you aren't getting so many specifics here - but N/nobody can tell Y/you much as it seems to me each O/one disabled and that Household must find their OWN way. Esp. as regards to specific disability and how bad it is now and the prognosis - how bad the medics think it is going to be.

Integrity and commitment will help Y/you and Y/yours find the way- when Life closes a door, i find it always opens a window somewhere. The problem is you may have to wait in a scarey, damp, smellhy, dark, scarey miserable, awful and horrible corridor for some time waiting until it does. And that is panic-making at times.

Nobody ever told me it would be easy, but HE did tell me it would be worth it and HE was right. And Y/you both need supportive people around Y/you who understand and have lived with the specific disability, probably in a vanilla way, either on line or at times in face to face meetings.

Oh i also had mental health challenges in the form of PTSD and bipolar, which i still do.

Y/you can let challenges bring Y/you closer or drive Y/you apart, it's up to both/all of Y/you to make that happen.

Good luck! i find challenges brought U/us closer when W/we faced the really tough stuff.

2 more things - if the medical prognosis is negative for the future, try herbs as Raven said, tai-chi, reiki massage therapy, acupuncture or acupressure, AS WELL AS regular medicine

and when Y/you really get down do a gratitude list -either personally or Together - of what Y/you still have and are grateful for. It can turn around a down day in a hurry.

And when Y/you do have better days, mark them with red X on a calendar where Y/you'll see it - for the times when the light at the end of the tunnel seems like it may be an oncoming train - Y/you can look at the calendar and see that Y/you have had some decent days, so Y/you probably will have them again. Look for the good in Y/you.

Grab ahold of everything that Y/you can while Y/you can and leave no room for regrets.

Back in the 80's - about the time of the movie Philadelphia story - when there was very little treatment i worked with folks with HIV disease and Aids, their significant O/others, and those at risk, being in the latter category due to my 3d ex. T/they had a saying that every day T/they could choose to be P/people living with Aids or dying from it- i've borrowed that and used it to apply to my disabilities and Master took that type of attitude with HIS.

i know this is long, but it's very complicated in one way and yet simple in another way - that latter is in Y/your commitment to each other is simple. From that root, the complicated can become simple. But never, ever easy - as i said- and always worth it. For real - no regrets to how W/we lived together as M/s thats for sure.

((((((((HUGS)))))))) if Y/you can accept them and feel comfortable doing so. Y/you are not alone. Hang in there.

j/L Papa's owned always: still proudly wearing His Collar and Ring, rest in peace Beloved Master/Husband! "Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose" Janis Joplin

21 Sep 08, 5:21 PM
MasterAlan79
AU, 4 mths
Y!*
Flowerbelle wrote:
Thank you, MasterAlan. Still working through the acceptance stage - it feels like having my face rammed repeatedly into a brick wall.

I'm just not used to accepting anything. Any pointers on how to accept anything will be gratefully received.

Surrender - submission - acceptance - these are the things i find so hard, and long for.

No need for thanks girl, just making sure your ok.

like i said you must find what you can do, what are you good at, what makes you happy, you must focus on these thing and not on your sickness and what you cant do and feel worthless.

for those who cant read, i am not saying she is worthless, but i know with a health problem that gets you down you can and often do feel worthless.

you must find what can help you feel good about yourself no matter how small it might be, and remember you are not worthless, no one is ever worthless.

i hope you can over come this cos you seem like a sweet girl and any master would be happy to have you.

21 Sep 08, 9:54 PM
Flowerbelle
UK, 14 mths
j/L Papa's owned - thank you for making me laugh about the corridor - that sums it up really well! i always enjoy reading your posts and got so much from them.
21 Sep 08, 9:57 PM
Flowerbelle
UK, 14 mths
Morniel - thats very hard to come to terms with i find - medical negligence and incompetence - it hurts in a way nothing else could because they're supposed to be able to help us, not make things worse. And the utter helplessness of it! Nothing has made me angrier or more despairing than that.
22 Sep 08, 2:35 AM
Morniel
US, 7 mths
Flowerbelle -- you know, you're right -- I was mad (not angry, not unhappy, but DAMN MAD) for the last five years. I did find a plastic surgeon who fixed it all but I couldn't help wonder, how many other people had this happen? or how many women had such damage from the cancer and chemo alone, that they couldn't be "fixed".... All I can say to anyone who's had this sort of thing happen? Don't stay mad for five years! Learn to be positive and learn to accentuate the good things, and don't take five years like I did, for goodness sake.

But don't do what I did for so long, and sit there and be mad and brood!

You know it didn't even dawn on me till last year? I was alive TO be mad!

So for anyone else out there coping with owies whether permanent, temporary, or recurring -- You have my support, even if I never know your name. I'll think about you every night before bed, and send "fuzzy wishes" at you.

(spelling edit, I gots fat fingahs sometimes)

Morniel's Special Place

Edited 22 Sep 08, 2:36 AM by Morniel

23 Sep 08, 3:08 AM
691-475-658
UK, 7 mths

Morniel wrote:
So for anyone else out there coping with owies whether permanent, temporary, or recurring -- You have my support, even if I never know your name. I'll think about you every night before bed, and send "fuzzy wishes" at you.

Hi Morniel

Some of the things you've said have really hit home with me... the medical negligence is/was a part of my anger but I hadn't broken it down properly from all the other stuff.

It's one of the reasons I don't trust doctors any more... although luckily two of mine are long term and I couldn't wish for better. Show me a new one and my guard is instantly up and I'm working on risk management.

Anyway... I have to ask - what's 'owies' ? :)

Take care

Lorii

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