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	SD! : Web boards : Sex & Fetishes : "circumcision.??" circumcision.?? (10) Moved from Discipline Sun 31 Aug 08, 3:07 PM 913-898-746 UK, 8 mths i am here to put the world right .??? . last thurs 21/8/8 i was fully circumcised including the front bit the frenum is it ? i hear you mutter ouch that must hurt. but im here to tell you all it actually does not hurt the procedure the after care just dont touch it ill kill ya.! If you take care of your little soldier thru this war dont pull the stitches or hit him on anything .it does not hurt the hardest pardon the pun is not getting him hard that does hurt . but its easier as it goes along i WOULD recommend circumcision to any one it looks fab even thru the bruising. 31 Aug 08, 5:10 PM 000-874-172 UK, 5 yrs Whilst I can appreciate that sometimes, a man, for whatever reason, would need to get 'cut' (I did too; kept getting caught in My zip, for want of a better reason ), I fail to see what this actually has to do with 'discipline'. Other than that, I'd recommend it too, for those that find it appropriate. It was one of the most medically sound things I've ever done. Daddy's phay®(her Rights are Mine in reserve) 27 Sep 08, 10:54 PM Miss_Becky 5 mths As far as circumcision goes, I have been contemplating the idea in regards to my submissive. He is old(er) and is worried about the surgery, aftercare, proper functioning afterwards, etc. I don't want him to be in any great amount of pain... but you're saying it isn't a painful procedure (aside from afterwards, with accidental touching, hardening, etc.)? Can any other men attest to this? I have done a lot of reading regarding this subject (it isn't a cruel thing I wish to inflict on my submissive, but rather, it would be health-related - i.e., he simply has too much excess skin and this makes him prone to infection, even though he is very cleanly, and soreness) and it doesn't sound at all pleasant... although, neither is the current alternative!! His doctor has actually reccommended he have this surgery. As a side note, or a matter of personal interest... are there any female slaves who have undergone female circumcision? I did a bit of study on this issue in university (not because I was interested in it for myself, but because this is where part of my studies lead me)... and I'm just wondering if there are any Masters who have actually required it of their slaves. I know it happens mainly in third world countries, within tribal atmospheres, and it is considered extremely cruel by the vast majority of the western world... but still, have any females actually ventured to have this done? If so, do you care to share any of your thoughts/ stories? The strongest and most effective force in guaranteeing the long-term maintenance of power is not violence in all the forms deployed by the dominant to control the dominated, but consent in all the forms in which the dominated acquiesce in their own domination. 28 Sep 08, 1:11 AM 000-874-172 UK, 5 yrs Obviously your submissive is a bit fractious about having this op done, so I can handle this one of two ways; either I can post 'how it was for me' when I it done, from start to finish, on the board, which I have no qualms or problem with doing; or for the sake of 'his' personal sanity, I can send you a memo with exactly the same thing. I'll leave that entirely up to you, please memo me if you choose that option Lovingly Owned by ~Miss Phay~ 28 Sep 08, 8:27 PM Miss_Becky 5 mths Why don't you send me a personal memo? Unless anyone else is interested... The strongest and most effective force in guaranteeing the long-term maintenance of power is not violence in all the forms deployed by the dominant to control the dominated, but consent in all the forms in which the dominated acquiesce in their own domination. 28 Sep 08, 9:02 PM 581-756-010 US(NY), 5 mths the benefits for circumcision are built up over years of cultural habits that are not grounded in any beneficial ideas. The foreskin holds many nerves that make sex more pleasurable as well has keeping the area slightly lubricated to prevent friction on the sensitive head. Receiving the procedure as an adult you are given anesthetic which is not true of infants for whom this is a very painful experience. Their is also the myth that it is more hygienic or prevents STD, both of these are mere speculation and have no significant evidence to support it. Simply washing an uncircumcised penis as you would any part of the body keep it as clean as it needs to be. 29 Sep 08, 9:25 PM Miss_Becky 5 mths His penis is well washed... cleanliness certainly isn't the problem... There is actually too much skin and when pulling it back to reveal the head, it has to stretch too far, which can actually create tears in the skin, which then can lead to bleeding and infection... the skin becomes red and irritated and thus very sore. I have tried talking to him about it, but it is a bit of a "sore" subject with him... I know it is because he is afraid of any pain he may be subjected to (along with the fact that he won't go to the doctor unless he thinks he's dying, it's that bad!!) Hence why I was asking about people's experiences... I thought if he read stories of other men who have undergone this procedure, he might realise it isn't as bad as he thinks it is. The strongest and most effective force in guaranteeing the long-term maintenance of power is not violence in all the forms deployed by the dominant to control the dominated, but consent in all the forms in which the dominated acquiesce in their own domination. 30 Sep 08, 1:43 AM jakesemma US(WA), 15 mths Y! I actually prefer men with non-circumcised penis's... I find circumsized penis's look funny to me. A penis is a penis is a penis.. There is no scientific evidence proving that removal of the foreskin does anything besides aesthetic purposes. Its a cultural thing. There's only been a few, rare incidences were it was required due to chronic infections (usually because the person couldn't keep it clean enough.) There have been numerous mishaps with the circumcision being done or painful erections later in life... I believe its a personal choice of the penis holder. 8 Oct 08, 10:13 PM Miss_Becky 5 mths I agree with you... to a certain extent... However, in the case of my husband/ submissive, a circumcision was recommended to him by his doctor for the specific reason that he has too much extra skin and that is the problem in and of itself (he may be one of those rare cases... with his luck, or lack of it, that is probably it!) It is obviously his own choice... I just wanted him to be knowledgeable enough to make an informed decision rather than basing it on an unfounded fear/ misconception, etc. To my own knowledge, he really hasn't done any research on the issue... it may simply be because he doesn't want to have this surgery performed, full stop... but I honestly don't think that is the case... I'm sure he is more open-minded than that. It isn't cleanliness that is the issue... it isn't so much an infection that is the cause... it is the actual friction and the "pulling" of the skin that creates the soreness... I think I mentioned that his skin will actually break/ tear (now, the friction against his penis isn't that severe... but it doesn't have to be for the soreness to occur, unfortunately) and then bleed... which is rather uncomfortable... and whether one prefers the look of an uncircumcised penis or not, I think we can all agree than even a circumcised penis would look better than a red, semi-bloody one!!! And I would rather wait weeks for his penis to heal after surgery that should, hopefully, prevent the problem than wait days/ weeks for his penis to heal because he is too stubborn to have a surgery on it that is meant to be helpful! The strongest and most effective force in guaranteeing the long-term maintenance of power is not violence in all the forms deployed by the dominant to control the dominated, but consent in all the forms in which the dominated acquiesce in their own domination. 8 Oct 08, 10:27 PM 000-874-172 UK, 5 yrs Miss_Becky wrote: I think we can all agree than even a circumcised penis would look better than a red, semi-bloody one!!! And I would rather wait weeks for his penis to heal after surgery that should, hopefully, prevent the problem than wait days/ weeks for his penis to heal because he is too stubborn to have a surgery on it that is meant to be helpful! The maths don't really add up here; what I mean is this - for all the down-time he spends healing after bleeding because of tears Vs. one operation (the circumcision), to get rid of the problem from happening doesn't so much as make sense. Yes it hurt to heal, yes it was uncomofrtable to lay there and have the operation done; OK, it was odd to look at but you get used to it, and yes it feels odd to play with once you've had it done, but you get used to that too like you never had it any different in the first place. For the love of all that is sane (your sanity, and his - not ours) it seems he needs to stop acting like the little boy needing the elastoplast, do the research and get himself a surgeon, because he's not doing himself any favours leaving it longer and longer. On a psychological front, the longer he leaves it, the bigger the mental barrier will grow to having it done at all. Stubborn doesn't really play a part in it, I suspect. Lop the thing off (the prepuce - foreskin) and be done! Men really can be their own worst enemies at times - I doubt anyone will argue on that front either. Sean. Lovingly Owned by ~Miss Phay~ 8 Oct 08, 11:07 PM Miss_Becky 5 mths You're too right, Sean... no arguements from me!! The strongest and most effective force in guaranteeing the long-term maintenance of power is not violence in all the forms deployed by the dominant to control the dominated, but consent in all the forms in which the dominated acquiesce in their own domination.