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	SD! : Web boards : Submission : "Problem: A vanishing Dom" 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Problem: A vanishing Dom (71) 19 Sep 08, 1:53 PM BaseOne UK, 2 yrs little_linnet wrote: BaseOne, you should be ashamed of yourself. Swooping in to "mentor" or whatever you call it a woman who is so troubled and has so little understanding of how power exchange works is profoundly unethical. Defending it so strenuously makes you a real piece of work. Krista O.K. little_linnet So should I break contact with a newbie ( any newbie ) leave her alone, with no contact, not answer the phone to her for fear of --your-- wrath and incriminations. Who do you think will swoop then ? ( as you phased it in your uncalled for comment ) I have has been on here for 2 years, have NO detrimental adverse comments from any Lady from any site in the world about me that i have been a Master to, about my motives or intentions. I hide nothing. So that makes me a bastard then, does it ????. I don't have a blank profile ( we know why men have blank profiles, don't we ? ) Always contactable, always here, and if you do a trace, you will get my home address and full name........ unlike most men on here. I think you should redefine your definition of a Person who is not upstanding and decent enough to converse with a newbie !! - should it be someone with no profile whatsoever ( see below ) I have no problem with you or anyone advising women to be careful of rebounds etc, and I always point this out, and more so than most. ( Edited 19 Sep 08, 4:08 PM by BaseOne ) subbyjenny, i will no longer point out the pitfalls of this lifestyle, for fear of upsetting you now... i will tell them everything is fine and that Ginny just had a dream, and it didn't happen ) I'll tell you who DID swoop, it was a low life profile name changer who devours innocent newbies, and has gone on to his next conquest, help put someone in Hospital ( he didn't help by his actions.) who knew full well "how power exchange works" and used it to his devious advantage. I think you should write to the lady concerned for details of the pretend dom that has gone underground, because he was "found out" ( see below ) and vent your anger at that scum that uses vunerable people, and not me. But i am the easy target, sitting here, with no valid complaints as to how i have treated Slaves or subs ! I don't delete my membership everytime someone questions me ( unlike some i can point you to ) If I was as bad as your libelous comments suggest, every one would have details to forward to you, but you have none. Defending it so strenuously makes you a real piece of work., you say, -- so now that i have semi defended myself against your unfounded accusations, then in your eyes I'm now a greater piece of work. ? No, i will not sit by and let you be judge and jury when you have not even conversed with the lady concerned. And because of all these unfounded comments, the lady concerned will probably brake off contact, and in yourwords "Swooping in to "mentor" a woman who is so troubled and has so little understanding of how power exchange works" WILL have a scum bag / arse wipe / ass hole / rapist swoop in.........or try to swoop in, I can assure you. So if that''s what you would rather have ( and it looks like it is ) then fine, rather than someone who is known on here for last 2 years, fine. Why was I shown as her Master you have to ask, was it to keep away the scum bags / trailer trash so they would not bother her with their poetry, discusting memos, swoop in on a "troubled" mind etc ??? think about that one. But my reasons are my reasons, not for open debate in this instance, as what ever I say, you will all find fault, as you always do. I have waited a while before commenting to accusations, so as not to upset the person concerned, and i asked for leeway so she could respond once she has recovered, but no, the accusations keep rolling in, so i have had to answer. Ginny may answer in 2 days, or she may delete her profile due to bickering on here. ( Probably delete her profile before then ) Do you think we do not discus all these comments ? I am not like a majority on here that keep their subs / slaves tongue tied. - -I even get told off for that !!!!!!!!!!!!! I think I have had a brush with you before, which could be one reason you don't like me, because I don't conform to your ideas. But lets not start another futile debate on that subject. B1 Edited 19 Sep 08, 4:08 PM by BaseOne 19 Sep 08, 9:25 PM Sir4Ryco 2 yrs Sir4Ryco wrote: For BaseOne, Your rant actually raised more concerns than it alleviated. The general gist of your post is, "better me swooping in than some scum bag / arse wipe / ass hole / rapist." So I take it that you are a better class of swooper . . . an albino vulture perhaps? I think, it's funny that for someone who is always swinging an ad hominine bat in this forum, you certainly respond poorly when confronted with your own system of rhetoric. In truth your explanation, of your action of enslaving 952-621-855 (Ginny) in the first ten days of her seeking solace here, isn't an explanation at all. It reads more like back pedalling rant designed to deflect blame and guilt. BaseOne wrote: I'll tell you who DID swoop, it was a low life profile name changer who devours innocent newbies, and has gone on to his next conquest, help put someone in Hospital ( he didn't help by his actions.) who knew full well "how power exchange works" and used it to his devious advantage. You certainly make him sound a lot worse than you are . . . all you have done is entered a D/s power dynamic, with someone who you know is vulnerable and suffering, in the guise of a helper. It is, after all, easier to ingratiate yourself to a submissive who is freshly betrayed, looking for a hand hold on life, and suffering from low self-worth. Something you don't seem to consider is that 952-621-855 (Ginny) is no longer a newbie (I hate that term). She has been in the dynamic and has been horribly betrayed while participating in it. If you had actual concern for her you would have kept your distance and helped her. If she had shown up on this forum, a couple months from now, saying,"there is a wonderful man who has helped me overcome my pain for the last several months and now he has asked me to be his submissive" I probably would have posted my congratulations. BaseOne wrote: No, i will not sit by and let you be judge and jury when you have not even conversed with the lady concerned. And because of all these unfounded comments, the lady concerned will probably brake off contact, and in yourwords "Swooping in to "mentor" a woman who is so troubled and has so little understanding of how power exchange works" WILL have a scum bag / arse wipe / ass hole / rapist swoop in.........or try to swoop in, I can assure you. Do you attempt to use this ridiculously emotional and over the top language when teaching or helping your submissive? It's almost as if you are saying if I don't take 952-621-855 (Ginny) as my sub some "scum bag / arse wipe / ass hole / rapist will [sic.] swoop in.........or try to swoop in, I can assure you." I take it that we can be assured by your tone and language that you are the only moral and trustable master alive . . . the rest of us are uncaring closet rapists. Well I for one don't feel the least bit assured by your rhetoric. Are you using 952-621-855 (Ginny's) new fear against her with statements like, "Everyone else out there is a scum bag / arse wipe / ass hole / rapist who will [sic.]swoop in.........or try to swoop in" and harm you . . . I'm the only one who isn't like that . . . you'll be safe with me? I would say that she might not be because you appear to lack empathy and respond to all criticism with anger or a statement pointing out that you are not as bad as _______ . . . that sounds like my six year old son. BaseOne wrote: So if that''s what you would rather have ( and it looks like it is ) then fine, rather than someone who is known on here for last 2 years, fine. That sentence sounds petulant. The gist of your argument up until this point seems to have been better me than a rapist. Now it seems to have switched to a tone of offence because we all know you so very well. I've been here for two years as well and certainly don't expect to win a debate or have people trust me because I have been on the forum for a certain time. People have judged me, and either like or dislike my opinions and consequently trust or mistrust the persona that is Sir4Ryco in these forums. You are in the same boat and from reading what you have written I don't like what I have seen. You are emotional, have difficulty logically clarifying and expressing a point, launch repeated ad hominine attacks against members of this forum and some type of evil master for which you are, in your own words, the antidote, your diction is poor, and you always come off sounding a tad immature or inexperienced (which is shocking because you appear to have had a submissive for quite some time). I wouldn't recommend the persona that is BaseOne to mentor or help anyone on these forums . . . of course you could be sending brilliant e-mails that I know nothing about. BaseOne wrote: Why was I shown as her Master you have to ask, was it to keep away the scum bags / trailer trash so they would not bother her with their poetry, discusting memos, swoop in on a "troubled" mind etc ??? think about that one. But my reasons are my reasons, not for open debate in this instance, as what ever I say, you will all find fault, as you always do. Good to see you aren't back pedalling here. So you made her your pretend slave so that your umbrella of purity and strength will save her from the evil masters who are looking to do what it appears you have actually done? No, I did not look at this through the lense you presented above and now that I have it doesn't seem to have altered my opinion of your actions one iota. While I'm sure that Krista can and probably will protect herself I would simply like to add that I also think that you should be ashamed of yourself. Sir4Ryco For 952-621-855 (Ginny), Ginny, you need to stop yourself and spend time talking with others who have under gone the same trauma and figure out what it was about you as a submissive that made you vulnerable to your previous honour-less master. Then you need to work out a system, in the context of your own psychological strengths and weaknesses, that you believe will protect you from a like man in the future . . . only then should you look to re-enter a TPE relationship. Any other choice puts you at risk of falling victim once again to your own (now exposed) vulnerabilities. You need to think critically about the choice you have rushed into. Take care. Sir4Ryco P.S. I had a P.P.S. in my last post, which I chose to erase, that read as follows: If he begins to attack this forum and tries to pressure you in to not reading or accepting advice given here then he is already starting the isolation process . . . step two in controlling a damaged submissive. He should leave all resources available to you until you have healed . . . otherwise he's probably trying to isolate you from all opinions that are contrary to his opinion. Edited 19 Sep 08, 10:02 PM by Sir4Ryco 20 Sep 08, 12:06 PM BaseOne UK, 2 yrs Sir4Ryco wrote: . otherwise he's probably trying to isolate you from all opinions that are contrary to his opinion. Re the accusations from sir4ryco about me :- I have not read your post above in full, because IT'S GETTING SO INFANTILE and repetative and but this is a reply to your earlier ATTACK. You ALL take statements and turn them round and missrepresent the original statement from members on here -- how arrogant ! YOU said to Ginny "only then should you look to re-enter a TPE relationship." WHAT !!! she is not in a TPE relationship, she is a submissive, she is not a Slave. You have read my replies, but you have not digested - which is typical of those that attack indiscriminately for pleasure. I quote:- Ginny is a submissive, ( ** ) and does not want to be a slave, no matter how many times people on here insist that she has to be a slave. Go read it. There we go again, people are insisting she be a slave. Even in my posts i say above, tell you this site is for Slaves AND submissives., I give you clues ** ( SD! is free for dominants, masters, owners, submissives and slaves to join.) see http://www.seekdiscipline.com/ I have already received memos / and personal emails yesterday from members, for standing up to self righteous people on here who attack members, any member, on a regular basis. I'm sure your anger would be better directed to those who abuse submissives, and not long standing members that have no posts or web logs of any detriment to them as to any bad behaviour toward women. And if you think I would spend $5000 for flights / hotels/ car hire for two to fly 6000 miles, just to have a 3 some, then you want your head examining. I will however, spend to see a cherished friend as a matter of courtesy and commitment, and have done so before, and will again. As one Gentleman to another Sir4Ryco, you have made accusations as to my validity, my motives and brought my good name into disrepute, and advise ladies to steer clear of me, in so many words. You are quite entitled to do so, but because you are also a Gentleman, you will give me an equal opportunity to itemise you, with no malice intended. Not because I want to, but to show your profile for what it could be, as I have allowed you to do with mine. I advise ladies to steer clear of gentlemen with such profiles as yours. Advise same for anyone who has Sir, Master or Lord in their title. ( Oh dear, i have just remembered your laws state I CANNOT advise ladies of ANYTHING - But tough shit ) You have no profile whatsoever, not even a country is mentioned ( I wonder why ) your advert is not shown when doing a search ( as far as I have ascertained ) you have no Interests boxes ticked. This is usually so the Dom can then say -- "Yes my dear, I like exactly everything you want need and enjoy, fearful of, apprehensive of, etc, etc, etc., we are very compatible miss prospective slave, we have everything in common, trust me". ( tell them what they want to hear - as you have no profile ) because you have nothing to the contrary on your profile -- it is BLANK ...... NO reply is needed, but no doubt you WILL continue your vendetta, as people like you NEVER desist, never. At least I hide nothing, I HAVE a profile, it is "shown" , good or bad as it may be, but I have one. P.S. Regarding your P.S. Ginny is FREE to read ALL posts and reply as required. Free to make her own decisions, and HAS read all comments on here and elsewhere. Can you not get it though your thick brains -- she is free to make her own decisions, and is not stifled by me, as my profile may show, but is ill in bed, and attacks as to her choice is not helping her recover, and the more attacks on here, once the threads get to about 60 replies, it closes, and YOU people will have prevented her from replying once she has recovered, but you don't care, you won't wait. Edited 20 Sep 08, 5:40 PM by BaseOne 20 Sep 08, 7:20 PM property_of_MacCain US(PA), 10 mths Ginny, i am sorry or all that has happened to you recently and wanted to take a moment to let you know i meant no ill will to you. i am not going to harass you or post again on this thread because i do not want to be part of the problem. i've said before i will not memo you, because i didn't want you to feel that i was attacking you or your decisions. That was never my intent. However my memo box IS open if you would like to contact me. i have abandonment issues of my own and can completely relate to your hurt. If you would like an ear, i'm here. If not i wish you all the best and hope your experiences here as of late has not left a permanent bad taste in your mouth. Maybe if you reread your thread on a good day you'll see that everyone just had concerns for your well being. Not one person posting, posted with malace intended for you...and all the malace as of late was because of genuine concern for you. Please accept my appologies. Feel better. p I breathe because He allows me to, indulging Him indulges me. 20 Sep 08, 8:01 PM Sir4Ryco 2 yrs Sir4Ryco wrote: For BaseOne, I'm finding it difficult to know where to start especially since you have made it obvious that you don't read my entire posts before replying. I will however attempt to give your post the attention it deservers because in the end this isn't about you . . . it's about 952-621-855 (Ginny) and her mental and physical well being. BaseOne wrote: YOU said to Ginny "only then should you look to re-enter a TPE relationship." WHAT !!! she is not in a TPE relationship, she is a submissive, she is not a Slave. You have read my replies, but you have not digested - which is typical of those that attack indiscriminately for pleasure. I quote:- Ginny is a submissive, ( ** ) and does not want to be a slave, no matter how many times people on here insist that she has to be a slave. Go read it. Once again I find your writing confusing because it appears to be completely detatch from what you have actually stated in several different locations. Originally your web page stated that 952-621-855 (Ginny) was your TPE slave and that Lilleth2005 was your submissive . . . I see that you have changed it in the last day or two. Also 952-621-855 (Ginny's) profile had her listed as your TPE slave and it has been days since I have checked there . . . I see that she now says that you are her dominant. I do typically call 952-621-855 (Ginny) a submissive in my previous posts but both her previous statements and your previous statements about the nature of your relationship can certainly excuse the T. You are still entering a power exchange with someone 6 days after they came here looking for advice and I still see that as a shameful act. If you muddy the psychological waters, of what has happened to her with her previous honourless master, then you won't allow her the time to figure out what happened in her last power exchange . . . what made her vulnerable to him and his lies? I've never insisted that 952-621-855 (Ginny) enter any type of power exchange. In fact I have repeatedly advised her to avoid all like relationships until after she has taken a good chunk of time to figure things out. She may even have decided that she doesn't want to enter into a formal power exchange ever again . . . but that path isn't even open to her now because of your actions. BaseOne wrote: There we go again, people are insisting she be a slave. Even in my posts i say above, tell you this site is for Slaves AND submissives., I give you clues ** ( SD! is free for dominants, masters, owners, submissives and slaves to join.) see http://www.seekdiscipline.com/ This is a straw man argument. I haven't insisted that 952-621-855 (Ginny) become a slave. In fact I deeply hope that she doesn't enter any type of power exchange for months. I also believe that TSR/SD is a forum that caters to varying levels of power exchange . . . I've never said that it isn't (not since the SD switch anyways). What I have argued for is that people only offer advice within those power dynamics for which they have some type of experience and therefore some type of expertise worth sharing (i.e. people in online relationships who continually offer advice in the 24/7 TPE forums). BaseOne wrote: And if you think I would spend $5000 for flights / hotels/ car hire for two to fly 6000 miles, just to have a 3 some, then you want your head examining. I will however, spend to see a cherished friend as a matter of courtesy and commitment, and have done so before, and will again. Of course I think you would invest $5,000 and travel 6,000 miles to meet a perspective (and probably desperate for affections) sub who you might be able to convince to join your household. It is energy expended in an attempt to fulfill your and Lilleth2005's expressed desire for a third person in your PE relationship (or is this relationship now TPE? . . . it's getting hard to follow). BaseOne wrote: As one Gentleman to another Sir4Ryco, you have made accusations as to my validity, my motives and brought my good name into disrepute, and advise ladies to steer clear of me, in so many words. You are quite entitled to do so, but because you are also a Gentleman, you will give me an equal opportunity to itemise you, with no malice intended. Not because I want to, but to show your profile for what it could be, as I have allowed you to do with mine. I advise ladies to steer clear of gentlemen with such profiles as yours. Advise same for anyone who has Sir, Master or Lord in their title. ( Oh dear, i have just remembered your laws state I CANNOT advise ladies of ANYTHING - But tough shit ) Gentlemen do not take advantage of a lady's distress. I personally wouldn't advise anyone to enter into a TPE relationship with me from what can be determined on this forum either. I would hope that most careful submissives wouldn't even do so after even a few months of correspondence. I would advise any submissive to first make sure that they are mentally and physically healthy and then that they have met the perspective dom several times before agreeing to even enter a power exchange. Otherwise how can you possibly know who it is you are giving power to (unless the relationship is just fo play . . . in which case I have no expertise). I said that I wouldn't recommend you as a mentor because of the personality traits your writing skills, methods of expression, and general tone have conveyed on this forum and also on your web page. My recommendation wasn't made over something as insignificant as attaching the prefix 'Sir' to my nickname (which I actually attached as a silly joke years ago . . . as in Surfer-Ryco). BaseOne wrote: You have no profile whatsoever, not even a country is mentioned ( I wonder why ) your advert is not shown when doing a search ( as far as I have ascertained ) you have no Interests boxes ticked. This is usually so the Dom can then say -- "Yes my dear, I like exactly everything you want need and enjoy, fearful of, apprehensive of, etc, etc, etc., we are very compatible miss prospective slave, we have everything in common, trust me". ( tell them what they want to hear - as you have no profile ) because you have nothing to the contrary on your profile -- it is BLANK ...... NO reply is needed, but no doubt you WILL continue your vendetta, as people like you NEVER desist, never. At least I hide nothing, I HAVE a profile, it is "shown" , good or bad as it may be, but I have one. I use to have a bit of a blurb and a picture (with my face blurred a bit) but I removed it all when I became paranoid about being outed. For my wife/slave and I the TPE part of our life is a secret and because we are both professionals it will remain so. I don't have an ad because I'm completely in love with my family and I am completely monogamous in my sexuality (it's where I feel the most comfortable). Here is the crux of the difference between you an me in this current debate . . . I am offering all of my advice to 952-621-855 (Ginny) in the express hope that it will make her better without any hope of reward for my actions except her psychological health. You are offering advice and help to make her your submissive before she has even had a chance to heal (by your own admission she is still bed ridden from her grief). Your actions are like those of a nephew standing by rich uncle's death bed in order to pressure them in to changing the will to their own benefit. No empathy for the pain or fear . . . simply a clear course to fulfill your own needs. I have no vendetta against you; I'm simply disgusted in your actions in this particular circumstance. I'm continuing to respond to your posts, in the hope that 952-621-855 (Ginny) will slow down and allow herself time to heal and learn, not because I have any personal dislike for you. Sir4Ryco P.S. To those who sent BaseOne memos about my argument please send them to me as well. I want to understand why my advise is flawed in your eyes. Thanks and take care. 20 Sep 08, 8:34 PM BaseOne UK, 2 yrs Sir4Ryco wrote: To those who sent BaseOne memos about my argument please send them to me as well. They were not about your argument, you prat- they were thanking me for standing up to self righteous people on here who attack members, any member, on a regular basis for pleasure. Sir4Ryco wrote: Of course I think you would invest $5,000 and travel 6,000 miles to meet a perspective ( you mean prospective ) sub But true to form, you never ease up with your malicious attack - and again, i have not read ALL of your ATTACK, from an escapee from somewhere. Edited 20 Sep 08, 8:48 PM by BaseOne 20 Sep 08, 10:46 PM 688-764-833 US, 2 yrs So Ginny and her master were together for “close to two months”. She was on vacation for two weeks of that time, and he has not contacted her for three weeks. That leaves me to conclude that they saw each other for a period of (almost) three weeks total. The last time she saw him, “he was 'more pleased' then he has ever been.” Then no contact and Ginny decided she'd had enough and ended it via email and wrote (here) that she was feeling hurt but positive. I'm sorry but I don't understand where all the drama and trauma came from. No matter what he may have been planning (or how you found out about it), Base One, he is gone from her life. Ginny had seemed like a sensible woman; then she's “sanctioned” and took to her bed. I'm a little confused. Leesie P.S. I do hope you're feeling better, Ginny. P.P.S. "...this thread is now closed...."? Seriously? 21 Sep 08, 3:41 AM little_linnet US, 3 yrs I think BaseOne has done a flawless job of showing exactly what he's made of here. Nuff said. Krista The thing you have to remember about girls is that the hyperfluid bearings under the camshafts can be miscalibrated along either axis, so regular maintanence is required to keep resonance in the titanium casing from causing abrasions against the primary sprocket joists. 21 Sep 08, 10:13 AM BaseOne UK, 2 yrs little_linnet wrote: I think BaseOne has done a flawless job of showing exactly what he's made of here. Nuff said.Krista So - I was sat here minding my own business, and you, who is a well know instigator of attacks on people, start your next campaign, on me, together with others. You and your cronies, have shown the world how repetitive and relentless your quest is, to attempt to destroy someone. Don't think you have "won" -- you never will. To others reading this, if you are attacked by those on these pages, those that are of suspect parentage, ( assuming it is a personal attack on you, and not a reasonable accepted reply ) bookmark these or other pages, to remind them. ( again ) 21 Sep 08, 3:49 PM BaseOne UK, 2 yrs 688-764-833 wrote: I'm sorry but I don't understand where all the drama and trauma came from. Base One, he is gone from her life. I'm a little confused. There is no confusion :- Others are defining our relationship wrongly, and take great delight in telling everyone what our relationship is, with no evidence. Others are attacking me instead of the Low life user. People who were dropped on their heads at an early age are allowed to Flame. Others are taking pleasure by "Flaming" me. ( Against AUP rules ) That's it. This is normal on here by a minority, as everyone knows, but I speak up, and will not be put down by these people - who Flame constantly. I agree with the comments about vulnerability, but unfortunately, if one responds against their wrong judgement about me, ( not the post ) then there is no stopping them. -- that's how they get away with it every time, as people don't want the agro - go away and hide under a rock--- so the "Flamers" win, are the law here, - but not any more. Next page