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SD! : Web boards : Submission : "Problem: A vanishing Dom"
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Problem: A vanishing Dom (71)

21 Sep 08, 7:44 PM
Sir4Ryco
2 yrs
For BaseOne,

I find your conspiracy theory posts a bit odd. I take it that you are trying to say that anyone who doesn't agree with your decision to enter a power dynamic with 952-621-855 (Ginny), is actually involved in a clandestine group led by Krista. Also it appears, in your own opinion, that you are the only person with enough courage to face this group's scourge without hiding under a rock. Don't you find this announcement just a little peculiar? I think that you are letting your emotions run away with you just a bit. Before I tried to engage you in a debate on this thread I didn't have an opinion about you, now I do have an opinion about how you choose to express yourself, but I'm still holding out hope for your ethics.

I will try, once again, to explain my point and my reaction to your action of entering a power exchange with 952-621-855 (Ginny) so soon after she sought help in this forum.

What would you think of a professional psychologist who entered into a power exchange with a submissive who had come to him for help only six days earlier? Why would you think these things?

If you had offered to mentor 952-621-855 (Ginny) and had only been offering advice to her I probably wouldn't have written anything at all. What instead happened was you listed her (in publicly accessible places) as your TPE slave and she did like-wise. Using that as my only evidence (what more would I need?) I advised 952-621-855 (Ginny) that it was a mistake to enter into any type of power exchange until she had allowed herself time to heal and to figure out what went wrong. I also told her about the probable personality traits of a man/master who seeks out vulnerable submissives for power exchange. In many ways a mentor is like a professional psychologist and should read and learn in order to help those they are mentoring. The problem with the dynamic that you have established is that you don't appear to be mentoring 952-621-855 (Ginny) through her grief to become a healed person; you instead appear to be attempting to master her.

I would like to know if the nature of your relationship with 952-621-855 (Ginny) includes a D/s power dynamic (i.e. is she your submissive like she says in her profile?)? Are you actually being a disinterested mentor to her and simply haven't managed to express it properly?

Sir4Ryco

21 Sep 08, 8:12 PM
meriaton
US(MN), 3 yrs

Seriously.

Can we either get along or agree to disagree and leave it alone for heaven's sake?

Ginny, through all of this, i hope you're okay. And it's good to have friends to help you through things, believe me. If that's what BaseOne is doing, then bravo and cheers!

But to everyone, involved or just "thread involved" can we please just let it go? Or maybe take the flames and hatred and open animosity to a private discussion off the thread? Or even try to discuss things like rational adults instead of namecalling, finger-pointing, and other forms of self-righteousness?

Forgive me, please - i'm just thinking that maybe there is a better place for the heated argument instead of in a thread begun by a girl who was worried and understandably upset and made the choice to go to Someone else for comfort or even possibly more, (in which case, seriously, is it really our business?).

Thank you.


meriaton - slave of Akhenaton
http://meriaton.byethost12.com/blog/blog4.php
Sometimes a sense of humor is the only sense i have!

24 Sep 08, 11:24 PM
Kaledorus
US, 2 yrs
952-621-855 wrote:
Not a word at all. No, real life. W/we don't live together.

Real life enslavement is 24/7/365. If you don't LIVE together then you can hardly be considered a slave. You may be a subbie however that which you describe is not characteristic of a Master-slave relationship.

When you "submit" to or "dominate" someone in a situation where safewords are used and when limitations are negotiated, you are not actually submitting or dominating at all - you are playing at it.

25 Sep 08, 12:04 AM
EilisMoonfire
US(WA), 9 mths

688-764-833 wrote:
So Ginny and her master were together for “close to two months”. She was on vacation for two weeks of that time, and he has not contacted her for three weeks. That leaves me to conclude that they saw each other for a period of (almost) three weeks total. The last time she saw him, “he was 'more pleased' then he has ever been.” Then no contact and Ginny decided she'd had enough and ended it via email and wrote (here) that she was feeling hurt but positive.

I'm sorry but I don't understand where all the drama and trauma came from. No matter what he may have been planning (or how you found out about it), Base One, he is gone from her life. Ginny had seemed like a sensible woman; then she's “sanctioned” and took to her bed.

I'm a little confused.

Leesie

P.S. I do hope you're feeling better, Ginny.

P.P.S. "...this thread is now closed...."? Seriously?

I just want to explain how the drama happened real quick, and have no desire to get sucked into the main argument that has been going on lately. A few years ago, I got into a relationship with someone I had known/crushed on for a while, right after I graduated high school we started dating and yeah, ok, only really dated for like a week. He came to my house one day and we slept together, I was living in the boonies at the time so I drove out and let him follow me back into town and that was the last time I ever saw/heard from him again. It took me 9 months to get over that, it drove me crazy, made me abuse/question my religion and question my self worth as a person. It is not always how long the relationship was = how bad it hurts. A lot of the times it's how the break was done. Not getting any closure can harm a person mentally for years, even if it was only a short relationship. It's the not getting answers to the questions than make you wonder and then pick through all the worst things about yourself and blame them leaving on those and it drives your self worth down to nil. I hope maybe that explained things a bit.

eilis

One day soon Master will come home and this slave will be whole again.

27 Sep 08, 7:27 PM
sweetsurrender1
UK, 3 yrs
Personally, i find it very sad that someones plea for advice has turned into such mud slinging. Sad, but not suprised, and that in itself is very sad.
28 Sep 08, 5:14 AM
HouseWench
US(MN), 3 mths
Kaledorus wrote:
952-621-855 wrote:
Not a word at all. No, real life. W/we don't live together.

Real life enslavement is 24/7/365. If you don't LIVE together then you can hardly be considered a slave. You may be a subbie however that which you describe is not characteristic of a Master-slave relationship.

Um, actually, I don't see why you can't be a slave even if you don't live with your Master. When Master Casper and I first exchanged, we lived six hours apart, and he gave me my schedule for the day, every evening before bed. I don't see how it's up to another person to define your category of submission. If she submits to him WHENEVER he so demands, is she not still a slave?

28 Sep 08, 1:13 PM
Blush4Him
US, 8 mths
HouseWench wrote:
Kaledorus wrote:
952-621-855 wrote:
Not a word at all. No, real life. W/we don't live together.

Real life enslavement is 24/7/365. If you don't LIVE together then you can hardly be considered a slave. You may be a subbie however that which you describe is not characteristic of a Master-slave relationship.

Um, actually, I don't see why you can't be a slave even if you don't live with your Master. When Master Casper and I first exchanged, we lived six hours apart, and he gave me my schedule for the day, every evening before bed. I don't see how it's up to another person to define your category of submission. If she submits to him WHENEVER he so demands, is she not still a slave?

Of course she is - if that's how they definite their relationship. Please, please, please ignore those who tell you what YOU have is not what you have. In other words, ignore the definers.

I have yet to give my consent to being slashed!

28 Sep 08, 1:21 PM
Blush4Him
US, 8 mths
meriaton wrote:
Seriously.

Can we either get along or agree to disagree and leave it alone for heaven's sake?

Ginny, through all of this, i hope you're okay. And it's good to have friends to help you through things, believe me. If that's what BaseOne is doing, then bravo and cheers!

But to everyone, involved or just "thread involved" can we please just let it go? Or maybe take the flames and hatred and open animosity to a private discussion off the thread? Or even try to discuss things like rational adults instead of namecalling, finger-pointing, and other forms of self-righteousness?

Forgive me, please - i'm just thinking that maybe there is a better place for the heated argument instead of in a thread begun by a girl who was worried and understandably upset and made the choice to go to Someone else for comfort or even possibly more, (in which case, seriously, is it really our business?).

Thank you.

I don't think it's really our business to begin with, but I can certainly understand the reaction of some who have posted on these boards for much longer. You see, I'm sure they're a bit frustrated with history repeated itself, and I'm pretty confident that is the feeling with this situation. Let me give you an example: Sub/Slave A has just *met* Dom/Master A. "He's the bestest Master in the world! It'll be my honor to serve him for ever and ever!" Two weeks later, Dom/Master A ends his little game with Sub/Slave A and she's crushed. She seeks advice here. The compassionate people on this board give her advice as well as consoling her. One week later, she's back and now belongs to Dom/Master B. Can you understand why they might become jaded and why they might feel it's their business? I can.

I have yet to give my consent to being slashed!

30 Sep 08, 6:54 PM
952-621-855
US(CA), 5 mths
I do thank each and everyone one of you for your posts. I have read each word carefully and with consideration.

I am not up to par and am still quite ill but that is of a different matter all together. Thank you also for the well wishes.

BaseOne is a man that has done nothing but teach me right from wrong. I seeked out to belong to him fully and than through teachings I realized where I messed up. I than asked to placed into consideration in which BaseOne had no problem with.

BaseOne in some people's eyes is but another vulture to swoop in. To me, that is not the case. He is a wonderful man that supported me and continued to ask me if this (D/s)is really in my best interest. I continued to say yes until BaseOne's words sunk in. I had faultered and jumped in too soon.

I am backing away from any form of D/s for the time being. It is time for myself to re-evaluate my inner being. I have snapped back into realty and from this I have learned that I DO need to take a moment and breath.

I was new, I was deceived (Not by BaseOne) and I was lost, confused and as one person stated, left without answers which does dwell within your mind. The unknown is painful and scary.

For the one that offered to exchange memo's. I am more than willing to speak with you. I have not seen any malice nor attack upon myself from anyone.

Please, BaseOne albeit not in many eyes here is a good man. Words get tangled, misread or even not clearly understood.

BaseOne-- I do thank You for Your words, Your kindness and Your advice.

A/all others..I thank Y/you for all of your words, kindness and advice.

I will not be deleting my account and I wish to speak with the other that has been abanoned before. Insight is always a wonderful tool for learning.

Thank Y/you all from the bottom of my heart and from within my right mind!

1 Oct 08, 3:31 AM
Sir4Ryco
2 yrs
Hi BaseOne,

It's apparent from 952-621-855 (Ginny)'s post that she still thinks that you are a good man and that the nature of your relationship seems to have worked itself out. It can be hard to turn down the temptation of a slave that wants to be with you.

I'm sorry for implying that you might have qualities in common with a master who preys on the weak and wish you nothing but peace and prosperity. Take care.

Sir4Ryco

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